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#sugar-meeting, 2010-09-13

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13:28 soasxfcefix-a184 I just got the latest Soas-i386-20100912. spin as 8 GB USB to start sugar details at http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/T[…]cess#Bootable_USB
13:28 using it here
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18:24 satellit_ muhua_afk; sdziallas_afk; look at http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/T[…]cess#Bootable_USB     soas-i386-20100912.17.iso liveusb-creator --reset-mbr (f12)linux found fix for getting Soas to boot...
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19:01 walterbender satellit_: hi
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20:23 satellit_ walterbender: sorry away from keyboard....
20:27 will be in and out....electricians working on house......
20:29 walterbender satellit_: hi... I have been someone out of the loop re SoaS of late... dropped by the non-meeting
20:29 you seemed to be the only one around
20:31 I remain concerned that the instructions are too hard to find for most users...
20:32 I pine for the days when we have one page with 5 big icons that took you to the right place
20:32 satellit_ Walterbender: No meeting today Mel and Sebastian have been very busy elsewhere: look at : http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/T[…]ocess#Test_Matrix  I have been monitoring Soas nightly composes and working on activity testing in the meantime....
20:33 I am trying to use the http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_Creation_Kit as a way for users to navigate our wiki also
20:34 almost 3150 hits on it......
20:35 walterbender That is a great page, but not a great to start.
20:36 satellit_ How do we simplify access? any ideas?
20:36 walterbender Even what used to be a simple Get Sugar page is now impossible because of the opaque and convoluted instructions about SoaS at the top.
20:36 satellit_ +1
20:37 walterbender I guess I will take a crack at a new set of pages as a strawman...
20:37 satellit_ http://en.flossmanuals.net/sugar  have some great introductory materials
20:37 great.
20:38 The main issue is Fedora upgrading to systemd and not having a working soas spin to test since 08182010
20:39 almost a month!
20:40 dfarning is coming along with USR very well also
20:41 I have had a lot of Mac users trying my prebuilt Virtualbox install of Mirabelle...
20:44 atphalix I'm thinking of doing a GUI to customize SoaS by teachers
20:44 what you think?
20:44 satellit_ the idea was dfarning's first: he has an early version to import on  http://people.sugarlabs.org/dfarning/    also see  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Sugar  and  http://download.sugarlabs.org/usr/
20:45 atphalix: look at: http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/S[…]ld_Your_Own_Remix
20:46 and: http://download.sugarlabs.org/[…]tomization-guide/
20:46 atphalix yes I already seen the customization-guide
20:47 but it don't include instructions for adding/removing .xo
20:47 satellit_ atphalix using livecd-tools and spin-kickstarts you can do nice customizations
20:48 you can remove .xo from the journal by right clicking item and then (-) on top
20:48 atphalix ok will try it
20:49 satellit_ rpm installed activities are locacated in /usr/share/sugar/Activities...need to do a remove of files in that directory to remove those activities.
20:49 s/located
20:50 or on some sugar versions you can hit right click to remove them from menu
20:50 .xo files
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20:53 atphalix I had a different solution before by doing a remaster to the iso by extracting files remove/add activities to home and repack everything
20:54 satellit_ Do you have the method written up somewhere? I am interested in how you do it...
20:55 atphalix there is several tools that do that just google remaster ubuntu
20:55 satellit_ I use the http://people.sugarlabs.org/Tgillard/ASLO-4.iso  which has about 140 activities which I drag drop from a USB to the sugar journal. easy
20:56 I think dfarning on #ubuntu-sugarteam uses ubuntu remastering..You should talk to him about it.
20:58 atphalix http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/L[…]e#Linux_utilities
20:59 satellit_ atphalix: also open-susse has a Build Engine for custom http://susestudio.com/login?re[…]2F46266#tab-build
21:01 atphalix satellit_: yes, don't know what is better way to do it ...
21:02 but see spins are a bit heavy and need internet
21:03 satellit_ talk to cyberorg on #opensuse-edu also (India so time difference is important) he knows the susse build system
21:05 good luck....: )
21:05 atphalix ok, but suse build system don't seems to be opensource
21:06 thanks anyway, I'll think more about this project...
21:07 satellit_ here is sorce for kiwi system http://ldn.linuxfoundation.org[…]wi-imaging-system  looks GPL.
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23:00 satellitmap-4a3d here is maple syrup Ubuntu
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