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#sugar-meeting, 2010-07-11

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04:46 mchua Okay, I promised I'd crank through SLOBs stuff and push that forward via email, and finally have the time to do so.
04:46 So let's do that.
04:46 I'm going from http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/O[…]utes#Agenda_items, for the record.
04:47 bernie, cjb, tomeu, SeanDaly, walterbender, CanoeBerry: just in case you're up, ping.
04:54 scanning email to see if new agenda  items have come up in the meantime
04:56 We have no new business, so let's walk through our three agenda items quickly.
04:56 #topic Trademark applications from Local Labs
04:56 #link http://lists.sugarlabs.org/arc[…]-June/011237.html
04:56 #info We have trademark usage applications from the following places:
04:56 * Colombia * Paraguay Educa * Argentina * Chile * Peru * DC
04:57 #info * Colombia * Paraguay Educa * Argentina * Chile * Peru * DC
04:57 #info We have been blocked by lack of links to the actual applications.
04:58 #info Walter says the words "TM REQUEST" should be in the subject lines for this, and that they should have been sent to list, but there are no emails from these countries with that subject on a public list (that I could find).
05:01 checks SLOBs archives
05:01 This is why it'd be nice to have this stuff in a public queue, folks.
05:36 None in the SLOBs archives that I could find, either.
05:36 #info Mel can't find subject lines with "TM REQUEST" in them in either iaep or slobs archives
05:37 #agreed This agenda item is being dropped, but people are encouraged (very very encouraged!) to resend their local labs' TM applications to SLOBs and cc iaep, and we'll get to them then. So if this is blocking you, please pipe up with a quick email!
05:37 #topic Ooo4Kids logo display request
06:17 #link http://lists.sugarlabs.org/arc[…]-June/011240.html
06:21 #info Main Oo4Kids contact is Eric Bachard, eric.bachard at free.fr
06:21 #info Oo4kids requests permission to place our logo on their "partners" page
06:21 #agreed YES (motion passes, Bernie, Walter, Adam and Mel +1, no -1)
06:21 #link http://lists.sugarlabs.org/arc[…]-June/011263.html
06:22 #info Added to "trademark permissions granted" list
06:22 #link http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/T[…]rmissions_granted
06:23 #topic F11+0.88+XO-1.* as a SL project
06:23 #info The broader topic under discussion here is "what is a SL project?" (as in, what does it entail, what does it mean for a project to be a SL project - rights and responsibilities)?
06:23 #info This is a simple question, but we need to actually agree on the answer.
06:24 #link http://lists.sugarlabs.org/arc[…]-June/011241.html
06:25 #note Tomeu: "
06:25 Gah, sorry.
06:25 #undo
06:26 #note Tomeu: "...which are the consequences of becoming an official project? I would say that it means that SLs as a community accepts some responsibility about the goals of the project. That could mean that the marketing, localization, infrastructure, development, community, etc. teams are supposed to cater for the needs of each project."
06:26 #note Sean: "For my part I think listing projects is a fine idea, it shows our tent is big and welcoming. We just need to very clear that we don't provide "tech support" for these projects."
06:27 #link http://lists.sugarlabs.org/arc[…]-July/011278.html
06:27 #link http://lists.sugarlabs.org/arc[…]-July/011284.html
06:29 #info It was agreed last week that Paraguay Educa should list the F11+0.88+Xo-1.* project on the wiki sidebar.
06:29 #link http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/D[…]t_Team/Sugar-0.88
06:37 #info It was also agreed that the project should have full use of SL Infrastructure resources.
06:39 #note The "what is a project?" notion hasn't yet been resolved, although this particular case seems to have been unblocked.
06:39 So I'm going to make it a quick agenda item, draft a motion and see if we can get discussion/consensus/approval around it.
06:39 #info So I'm going to make it a quick agenda item, draft a motion and see if we can get discussion/consensus/approval around it.
06:40 #link http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/S[…]roject_Guidelines
06:41 #info the current page asays projects start as SIGs, then apply to SLOBs for project status.
06:41 er, says. sorry.
06:42 #action mchua to shoot this page out to the iaep list and ask if anyone thinks it needs more - if it's not blocking anything, we can skip it for now, I think.
06:42 #topic Other business
06:47 #info We have a question for SLOBs from Kevin Mark.
06:47 #link
06:47 #info Kevin Mark: I was confused about the hierarchy of who should be the deciding organization for who determines what version of sugar is used in the field. There are more than 500,000 users and many people outside of OLPC and Sugar Labs that will have to support that choice (of using 0.88) as well as the support that OLPC and Sugar Labs in Boston and elsewhere will have to provide." #info "I dont know how a new 3rd party like Activity Ce
06:47 #info "There are more than 500,000 users and many people outside of OLPC and Sugar Labs that will have to support that choice (of using 0.88) as well as the support that OLPC and Sugar Labs in Boston and elsewhere will have to provide. I dont know how a new 3rd party like Activity Central is involved in this and what role they should be taking as they are untested and lacking the kind of resouces that OLPC and Sugar Labs have at the moment.
06:47 #note Mel: "To me, this is very clear - SL decides what version(s) of Sugar it will support, and deployments will decide what version(s) of Sugar they will use. Deployments don't have to use the supported version of Sugar, they just won't get support from SL if they do. :) And others (deployments or third-party entities) may step up to offer support for versions SL itself does not support. We may want to be clearer about what version(s) SL
06:47 #action mchua to shoot this to slobs and iaep lists for further Q&A
06:47 #topic Next week's agenda
06:47 Aaaaaaand that's all for the night.
06:48 #info * Revisit "what's a project?"
06:48 #info * Ask again: what are our biggest issues right now? How are we doing towards our goals? (What are they?)
06:48 That's a wrap, folks. Thanks for tolerating this IRC backlog. :)
06:49 #endmeeting

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