| Time | Nick | Message |
|---|---|---|
| 11:25 | christianmarcsch | let me recap the options as i currently see them |
| 11:25 | silbe | #topic Start New/Resume from home screen |
| 11:25 | garycmartin | Hmm, been looking at the first pdf, the second looks borked. May just have a bad extension name. |
| 11:25 | christianmarcsch | i'll resend |
| 11:26 | garycmartin | christianmarcsch: yea just a bad name, needs .pdf |
| 11:26 | christianmarcsch | ok, i also resent as a single PDF (all three options) |
| 11:26 | so... | |
| 11:26 | Option 1A: Modal dialog with full hover palette | |
| 11:26 | Option 1B: Modal dialog with only hover preview | |
| 11:27 | garycmartin | christianmarcsch: fwiw I was just mocking up Walters pi menu suggestion. |
| 11:27 | christianmarcsch | Option 2: Immediate hover palette with only two options: resume the latest (on click), or start new |
| 11:27 | garycmartin: that's great--can you share it yet? | |
| 11:27 | garycmartin | christianmarcsch: Pie menus have some advantages but are notoriously painful to implement and get working right. |
| 11:28 | christianmarcsch | garycmartin: yes, i agree. worth looking at, though |
| 11:28 | garycmartin | christianmarcsch: not done yet, having trouble with the layout myself :) |
| 11:29 | christianmarcsch | so, walter had made a suggestion that we code each of these options and compare them |
| 11:29 | i think that might be a good idea, so we can better evaluate each | |
| 11:29 | silbe | Option 3: New full-screen window with Journal grid view pre-filtered by activity |
| 11:30 | garycmartin | christianmarcsch: So is Walter offering to code them? ;) |
| 11:30 | christianmarcsch | silbe: isn't that similar to the modal dialog? |
| 11:30 | silbe | christianmarcsch: similar, but distinctive enough to list separately |
| 11:31 | christianmarcsch | silbe: so it basically takes you to a prefiltered journal? |
| 11:31 | silbe | christianmarcsch: exactly |
| 11:31 | christianmarcsch | silbe: on click? |
| 11:31 | silbe: i feel that it could be an option in the hover palette, but on click it may feel too indirect | |
| 11:32 | silbe: that's why we ended up with a modal dialog--it still keeps you in context of the home view | |
| 11:32 | silbe | christianmarcsch: yep. Start New should be an option in the full-screen window as well. |
| 11:32 | christianmarcsch: how would you trigger and dismiss the modal dialog? | |
| 11:32 | christianmarcsch | silbe: so, i view this option as a variation of the modal dialog. we keep the dialog, but make it more extensive |
| 11:32 | garycmartin | Seeing as we suddenly have so many new suggestions, perhaps we should skip the realtime meeting and take some time to look at them using the mail-list? |
| 11:33 | christianmarcsch | silbe: look at the pdf: you can either click the X, or click the grayed out background around it |
| 11:33 | silbe | and make it non-modal because modal is a PITA |
| 11:33 | christianmarcsch | PITA? |
| 11:33 | silbe | christianmarcsch: and how do you trigger it? clicking on an activity? |
| 11:34 | christianmarcsch | silbe: yes |
| 11:34 | silbe | pain in the backside ;) |
| 11:34 | christianmarcsch | silbe: so, imagine we took this dialog and added a scrollbar |
| 11:34 | silbe: then we would have what you are describing, right? | |
| 11:34 | silbe: it sounds like what you are looking for is to show more activities | |
| 11:35 | silbe | more or less - except that I'd use the grid view (=> preview images) and make it non-modal. |
| 11:35 | christianmarcsch | and by the way, we can also try list of grid view |
| 11:35 | silbe: yes, we can do that | |
| 11:35 | silbe | and showing the start new in the "dialog" as well |
| 11:35 | christianmarcsch | ok, i'll record that as another design exploration |
| 11:36 | silbe | so they can decide whether to start new or resume based on the full list of old instances |
| 11:36 | christianmarcsch | silbe: ok, that makes sense. |
| 11:37 | i'll mock up that variation | |
| 11:37 | silbe | I don't think it's optimal, but it might be a good step in the right direction |
| 11:37 | christianmarcsch: thanks! | |
| 11:37 | IIRC garycmartin mentioned Apple doing something similar on the iPad | |
| 11:38 | christianmarcsch | silbe: oh, that would be good to see |
| 11:38 | garycmartin | silbe: sorry, this meeting is not working for me, no idea what is being discussed. Was about to bail and ask folks to offline ideas to the mail-list. |
| 11:39 | christianmarcsch | gary, i can create a mockup |
| 11:39 | garycmartin | christianmarcsch: fab. I'll plough on with the pie menu mockup and will mail it to the list. |
| 11:39 | christianmarcsch | it's a more extensive version of page 3 in the pdf |
| 11:40 | great | |
| 11:40 | i can talk again tomorrow if that works? | |
| 11:42 | garycmartin | Can we try and get some threads going on the mail-list? Would find that easier, then use realtime chats only if we need to flesh things out or try to make a final call. |
| 11:42 | christianmarcsch | ok, sure |
| 11:43 | should we keep using the thread walter started? | |
| 11:43 | garycmartin | Sure, remember to adjust the subject if needed. |
| 11:44 | christianmarcsch | will do |
| 11:44 | silbe | please start a new thread - the current one was about bernies pending patches and is already huge |
| 11:45 | christianmarcsch | ok... |
| 11:46 | garycmartin | LOL :) |
| 11:47 | christianmarcsch | well, to be continued! |
| 11:47 | i need to sign off | |
| 11:47 | looking forward to the next round | |
| 11:47 | silbe | so are we meeting again tomorrow or not? |
| 11:47 | christianmarcsch | i can if necessary |
| 11:47 | but i think gary preferred to do it asynchronously | |
| 11:48 | garycmartin | Sorry, not me. |
| 11:48 | silbe | ok, then let's postpone it. |
| 11:48 | christianmarcsch | let's discuss via email thread for now |
| 11:48 | and reconvene here when it becomes necessary | |
| 11:48 | silbe | as long as we keep the emails flowing that's fine with me |
| 11:48 | garycmartin | Thanks christianmarcsch, I'll catch up on the list. |
| 11:49 | silbe | we have a rather large backlog already and quite a bit of it was on the mailing list |
| 11:49 | christianmarcsch | sorry, i have to sign off now |
| 11:49 | silbe | #endmeeting |