Time |
Nick |
Message |
11:25 |
christianmarcsch |
let me recap the options as i currently see them |
11:25 |
silbe |
#topic Start New/Resume from home screen |
11:25 |
garycmartin |
Hmm, been looking at the first pdf, the second looks borked. May just have a bad extension name. |
11:25 |
christianmarcsch |
i'll resend |
11:26 |
garycmartin |
christianmarcsch: yea just a bad name, needs .pdf |
11:26 |
christianmarcsch |
ok, i also resent as a single PDF (all three options) |
11:26 |
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so... |
11:26 |
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Option 1A: Modal dialog with full hover palette |
11:26 |
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Option 1B: Modal dialog with only hover preview |
11:27 |
garycmartin |
christianmarcsch: fwiw I was just mocking up Walters pi menu suggestion. |
11:27 |
christianmarcsch |
Option 2: Immediate hover palette with only two options: resume the latest (on click), or start new |
11:27 |
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garycmartin: that's great--can you share it yet? |
11:27 |
garycmartin |
christianmarcsch: Pie menus have some advantages but are notoriously painful to implement and get working right. |
11:28 |
christianmarcsch |
garycmartin: yes, i agree. worth looking at, though |
11:28 |
garycmartin |
christianmarcsch: not done yet, having trouble with the layout myself :) |
11:29 |
christianmarcsch |
so, walter had made a suggestion that we code each of these options and compare them |
11:29 |
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i think that might be a good idea, so we can better evaluate each |
11:29 |
silbe |
Option 3: New full-screen window with Journal grid view pre-filtered by activity |
11:30 |
garycmartin |
christianmarcsch: So is Walter offering to code them? ;) |
11:30 |
christianmarcsch |
silbe: isn't that similar to the modal dialog? |
11:30 |
silbe |
christianmarcsch: similar, but distinctive enough to list separately |
11:31 |
christianmarcsch |
silbe: so it basically takes you to a prefiltered journal? |
11:31 |
silbe |
christianmarcsch: exactly |
11:31 |
christianmarcsch |
silbe: on click? |
11:31 |
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silbe: i feel that it could be an option in the hover palette, but on click it may feel too indirect |
11:32 |
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silbe: that's why we ended up with a modal dialog--it still keeps you in context of the home view |
11:32 |
silbe |
christianmarcsch: yep. Start New should be an option in the full-screen window as well. |
11:32 |
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christianmarcsch: how would you trigger and dismiss the modal dialog? |
11:32 |
christianmarcsch |
silbe: so, i view this option as a variation of the modal dialog. we keep the dialog, but make it more extensive |
11:32 |
garycmartin |
Seeing as we suddenly have so many new suggestions, perhaps we should skip the realtime meeting and take some time to look at them using the mail-list? |
11:33 |
christianmarcsch |
silbe: look at the pdf: you can either click the X, or click the grayed out background around it |
11:33 |
silbe |
and make it non-modal because modal is a PITA |
11:33 |
christianmarcsch |
PITA? |
11:33 |
silbe |
christianmarcsch: and how do you trigger it? clicking on an activity? |
11:34 |
christianmarcsch |
silbe: yes |
11:34 |
silbe |
pain in the backside ;) |
11:34 |
christianmarcsch |
silbe: so, imagine we took this dialog and added a scrollbar |
11:34 |
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silbe: then we would have what you are describing, right? |
11:34 |
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silbe: it sounds like what you are looking for is to show more activities |
11:35 |
silbe |
more or less - except that I'd use the grid view (=> preview images) and make it non-modal. |
11:35 |
christianmarcsch |
and by the way, we can also try list of grid view |
11:35 |
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silbe: yes, we can do that |
11:35 |
silbe |
and showing the start new in the "dialog" as well |
11:35 |
christianmarcsch |
ok, i'll record that as another design exploration |
11:36 |
silbe |
so they can decide whether to start new or resume based on the full list of old instances |
11:36 |
christianmarcsch |
silbe: ok, that makes sense. |
11:37 |
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i'll mock up that variation |
11:37 |
silbe |
I don't think it's optimal, but it might be a good step in the right direction |
11:37 |
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christianmarcsch: thanks! |
11:37 |
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IIRC garycmartin mentioned Apple doing something similar on the iPad |
11:38 |
christianmarcsch |
silbe: oh, that would be good to see |
11:38 |
garycmartin |
silbe: sorry, this meeting is not working for me, no idea what is being discussed. Was about to bail and ask folks to offline ideas to the mail-list. |
11:39 |
christianmarcsch |
gary, i can create a mockup |
11:39 |
garycmartin |
christianmarcsch: fab. I'll plough on with the pie menu mockup and will mail it to the list. |
11:39 |
christianmarcsch |
it's a more extensive version of page 3 in the pdf |
11:40 |
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great |
11:40 |
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i can talk again tomorrow if that works? |
11:42 |
garycmartin |
Can we try and get some threads going on the mail-list? Would find that easier, then use realtime chats only if we need to flesh things out or try to make a final call. |
11:42 |
christianmarcsch |
ok, sure |
11:43 |
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should we keep using the thread walter started? |
11:43 |
garycmartin |
Sure, remember to adjust the subject if needed. |
11:44 |
christianmarcsch |
will do |
11:44 |
silbe |
please start a new thread - the current one was about bernies pending patches and is already huge |
11:45 |
christianmarcsch |
ok... |
11:46 |
garycmartin |
LOL :) |
11:47 |
christianmarcsch |
well, to be continued! |
11:47 |
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i need to sign off |
11:47 |
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looking forward to the next round |
11:47 |
silbe |
so are we meeting again tomorrow or not? |
11:47 |
christianmarcsch |
i can if necessary |
11:47 |
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but i think gary preferred to do it asynchronously |
11:48 |
garycmartin |
Sorry, not me. |
11:48 |
silbe |
ok, then let's postpone it. |
11:48 |
christianmarcsch |
let's discuss via email thread for now |
11:48 |
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and reconvene here when it becomes necessary |
11:48 |
silbe |
as long as we keep the emails flowing that's fine with me |
11:48 |
garycmartin |
Thanks christianmarcsch, I'll catch up on the list. |
11:49 |
silbe |
we have a rather large backlog already and quite a bit of it was on the mailing list |
11:49 |
christianmarcsch |
sorry, i have to sign off now |
11:49 |
silbe |
#endmeeting |