| Time |
Nick |
Message |
| 10:40 |
subzero |
BryanWB_: it could be useful, also jQuery / Dojo has their datagrid, datalist... |
| 10:40 |
walterbender |
homunq: I can send you a back log |
| 10:40 |
homunq |
lucian1900 and walterbender: anything to report? |
| 10:41 |
walterbender |
just general discussion.... working on background stuff |
| 10:41 |
homunq |
walterbender: yeah, I'd like a backlog, but for now onwards ho! |
| 10:41 |
lucian1900 |
homunq: we've done some brainstorming, but not much else. i don't have a laptop so communication and development are hard |
| 10:42 |
homunq |
lucian1900: what can you do about that? could we help you somehow? |
| 10:43 |
lucian1900 |
lucian1900: not really. i have to wait for my laptop to be returned, it's being fixed |
| 10:43 |
bemasc |
oh, we confirmed XOs to be sent to all the SoC students who applied |
| 10:43 |
lucian1900 |
homunq: it's not too bad, i have a library close enough |
| 10:43 |
bemasc |
Maybe you've been notified. |
| 10:44 |
homunq |
lucian1900: OK, cool. When should it be fixed? |
| 10:44 |
lucian1900 |
homunq: i don't have an ETA unfortunatelly. the insurance firm is a bit tight-lipped |
| 10:45 |
iwikiwi |
lucian1900: which laptop is this, an XO? or your mac? |
| 10:45 |
homunq |
OK. Well, actual program start is looming, can you develop a fallback plan in case you don't get it by then? |
| 10:45 |
lucian1900 |
homunq: if i get my XO by then, it should be ok. if not, i guess i'll borrow my girlfriend's |
| 10:46 |
|
iwikiwi: my mac, i don't have an XO yet |
| 10:46 |
iwikiwi |
ah okay |
| 10:46 |
homunq |
Can you boot into your own environment in the library? |
| 10:46 |
|
do you have your hard-disk? |
| 10:46 |
lucian1900 |
homunq: no, it's pretty locked down. i do have a backup hard-drive, i have all my data |
| 10:47 |
homunq |
lucian1900: well, I'd say the minimum you'll need is a way to boot your own stuff |
| 10:48 |
|
even if you're borrowing your gfs |
| 10:48 |
lucian1900 |
homunq: i can probably boot stuff on my gfs. if not, at least run virtualbox |
| 10:49 |
homunq |
OK. Well, figure out what it takes. you should not be dealing with infrastructure at program start, so do all that installation before |
| 10:49 |
|
OK, subzero and BryanWB_ |
| 10:50 |
|
(sorry BryanWB_ we're running long) |
| 10:50 |
subzero |
well, I'm having problems with animation |
| 10:50 |
|
loosing time... |
| 10:51 |
homunq |
(my daughter's school is still cancelled due to swine flu, 3 weeks straight is hard) |
| 10:51 |
subzero |
so, talked yesterday... |
| 10:51 |
|
http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/K[…]eting_12_May_2009 |
| 10:52 |
|
we have introduced Karma in jQuery discussion group |
| 10:52 |
homunq |
I trust BryanWB_ to keep you on the critical path... |
| 10:52 |
subzero |
in order to get advice from expertise |
| 10:53 |
|
homunq: true |
| 10:53 |
homunq |
my only advice, which I'm sure he's already told you, is to not depend on others if you can avoid it. |
| 10:53 |
BryanWB_ |
homunq: didn't say it as well as you just did ;) |
| 10:53 |
subzero |
agreed |
| 10:54 |
homunq |
"this feature exists, I'll have that little bug fixed real soon now" is the siren's call. |
| 10:54 |
|
I mean, when other people say it. |
| 10:55 |
subzero |
yes, well, so the idea I think is to code everything I can and then decide |
| 10:55 |
homunq |
OK. bemasc and assimd? |
| 10:55 |
|
("busy with exams" is enough) |
| 10:55 |
bemasc |
I have my Last Exam Ever on Thursday |
| 10:56 |
assimd |
homunq: and mine will end on 29th |
| 10:56 |
walterbender |
bemasc: :) |
| 10:56 |
BryanWB_ |
bemasc: congrats! |
| 10:56 |
homunq |
bemasc: awesome |
| 10:56 |
lucian1900 |
bemasc: i envy you :) |
| 10:56 |
iwikiwi |
bemasc: wow |
| 10:57 |
assimd |
bemasc: what you would be doing after exams? like job or what? |
| 10:57 |
iwikiwi |
assimd: are you in your final year of engg? |
| 10:57 |
bemasc |
assimd: well, I'll still be doing what I am doing now, which is working on my Ph.D. research |
| 10:57 |
assimd |
iwikiwi: yep :) |
| 10:57 |
bemasc |
I'm a Ph.D. student. The exam in question is called a Preliminary Qualifying Exam. |
| 10:57 |
homunq |
assimd: is there any breathing room before then? |
| 10:58 |
bemasc |
It's my final academic requirement... except for writing and defending a dissertation. |
| 10:58 |
iwikiwi |
good luck, bemasc, assimd! |
| 10:58 |
assimd |
homunq: you mean time between joining and exam end? |
| 10:58 |
homunq |
I mean, you and bemasc need to talk and work out your plans between 14th and 23rd |
| 10:59 |
assimd |
homunq: ya, sure. I can very well do that. |
| 10:59 |
homunq |
assimd: can you propose a date now, when your exams are in a lull? |
| 11:00 |
assimd |
bemasc: homunq: how about 15th? |
| 11:00 |
homunq |
bemasc? |
| 11:01 |
bemasc |
sure |
| 11:01 |
|
same time? |
| 11:01 |
assimd |
perfect |
| 11:01 |
homunq |
(iwikiwi and homunq are missing their counterparts, so when the marketing meeting starts, we can reschedule later in the day/week) |
| 11:01 |
SeanDaly |
gar |
| 11:02 |
bemasc |
assimd: sounds good |
| 11:02 |
walterbender |
SeanDaly: grrr |
| 11:02 |
SeanDaly |
hi anyone around? |
| 11:02 |
caroline |
hi |
| 11:02 |
bemasc |
Marrrrketing. |
| 11:02 |
walterbender |
SeanDaly: the GsoC meeting is just ending |
| 11:02 |
SeanDaly |
gar=Sugar without Su |
| 11:02 |
bemasc |
#endmeeting |
| 11:02 |
|
umm |
| 11:02 |
homunq |
#endmeeting |
| 11:04 |
iwikiwi |
homunq: ah, okay. I will post updates |
| 11:04 |
SeanDaly |
agenda is brief (was in invite): |
| 11:04 |
walterbender |
erikos: hi |
| 11:05 |
erikos |
hi walterbender |
| 11:05 |
SeanDaly |
SugarCamp Paris preparations, * Sugar videos, * website navigation bar status |
| 11:05 |
|
hi erikos |
| 11:05 |
erikos |
SeanDaly: hello to you as well |
| 11:05 |
SeanDaly |
I have great news, II have found a space for our Sunday meeting |
| 11:06 |
erikos |
excellent |
| 11:06 |
walterbender |
SeanDaly: great. I'll let our friend at FT know |
| 11:06 |
SeanDaly |
It's on the Canal St.-Martin a short walk from République |
| 11:06 |
walterbender |
SeanDaly: convenient for me :) |
| 11:06 |
SeanDaly |
The meeting room has a videprojector, there is wifi |
| 11:06 |
erikos |
SeanDaly: Canal St. Martin is a nice area |
| 11:07 |
SeanDaly |
it's not a dungeon which some of the hotel rooms were |
| 11:07 |
|
it's a space for socially conscious entrepreneurs and they like our values :-) |
| 11:07 |
caroline |
sounds perfect! |
| 11:08 |
SeanDaly |
outside the meeting room tthere are chairs so small groups can brreak off to discuss stuff etc. |
| 11:08 |
|
hi jt4sugar |
| 11:08 |
jt4sugar |
Hello |
| 11:08 |
SeanDaly |
#LINK http://www.la-ruche.net/ |
| 11:09 |
|
They are low-key, I think it will be a good spot |
| 11:09 |
walterbender |
SeanDaly: I cannot open the URL :( |
| 11:10 |
SeanDaly |
Murphy's Law, their site crashed, I assure you it was working fine an hour ago :D |
| 11:10 |
|
i had wanted to get a Sugar Labs banner made |
| 11:10 |
|
But I think I'll settle for unbranded balloons :-/ |
| 11:11 |
tomeu |
seems to be a db timeout |
| 11:12 |
SeanDaly |
there is a slew of friendly restaurants and cafés in that area ii think we will like it |
| 11:12 |
sdziallas |
waves, running around a bit |
| 11:12 |
SeanDaly |
Hi sdziallas by the way I wasn't sure are you coming this weekend? |
| 11:13 |
erikos |
hi sebastian |
| 11:13 |
SeanDaly |
OK concerning this weekend anything else we need to do, aside from the things we are doing and going to do? |
| 11:13 |
sdziallas |
SeanDaly: hey... sorry, I won't make it for Paris. I would have loved to, but I can't just do two things at the same time (I'm going to Cannes tomorrow). Still hoping to meet all you folks at LinuxTag... |
| 11:13 |
walterbender |
sdziallas will be in Cannes... |
| 11:14 |
|
we should hold the Sunday meeting at his place :) |
| 11:14 |
SeanDaly |
sdziallas: good for you, guaranteed sun :-) |
| 11:14 |
|
LinuxTag for sure |
| 11:14 |
sdziallas |
I've never been to Cannes before, I'll make sure to take some photos :) |
| 11:14 |
|
cool! |
| 11:15 |
SeanDaly |
About the space for Sunday, I will be dropping by there on Friday to pay & sign an agreement |
| 11:15 |
|
The actual meeting room is 58 square meters, don't know whhat that is in foot-candles |
| 11:16 |
jt4sugar |
SeanDaly: Is meeting being streamed live or video for future viewing |
| 11:17 |
SeanDaly |
jt4sugar: as far as I know no stream plans... ideally we could arrange phone conference? |
| 11:17 |
erikos |
SeanDaly: where do we meet in tursday? |
| 11:17 |
jt4sugar |
SeanDaly: Sounds good |
| 11:17 |
SeanDaly |
I understand VoIP poor over shared wifi |
| 11:18 |
|
erikos: David will "open" my crashpad, i will be there Thursday evening |
| 11:18 |
walterbender |
SeanDaly: the link works again... |
| 11:19 |
SeanDaly |
Should we film the meeting, warts & all? I hesitate myself... |
| 11:19 |
erikos |
SeanDaly: where is the place located? |
| 11:20 |
tomeu |
SeanDaly: we have filmed past sugarcamps |
| 11:20 |
SeanDaly |
meeting: 84 quai de Jemmapes in the 10th arrondissement |
| 11:21 |
|
tomeu: forgive my ignorance but does that inhibit anyone from speaking up? are the films put online? |
| 11:21 |
tomeu |
SeanDaly: I think they were published, but I haven't seen them ;) |
| 11:22 |
SeanDaly |
I have a MiniDV camcorder and possible access to a second, I could set it on a tripod and let it rip |
| 11:22 |
|
But, it takes hours afterwards to transcode to Theora (or anything else) |
| 11:22 |
jt4sugar |
SeanDaly: Films fro SugarCamp and Live stream of XO Camp very helpful for a newbie |
| 11:22 |
tomeu |
SeanDaly: I guess we should ask the attendants, but is good for the members of SLs that cannot attend |
| 11:23 |
sdziallas |
waves again ;) |
| 11:23 |
SeanDaly |
I filmed and ttranscoded the GPLv3 conference in Barcelona three years ago |
| 11:23 |
walterbender |
SeanDaly: it hasn |
| 11:23 |
|
t been anissue in the past |
| 11:23 |
|
needs to spend more time with Typing Turtle |
| 11:24 |
|
SeanDaly: what time do we meet on Sunday? |
| 11:24 |
erikos |
SeanDaly: ok, cool |
| 11:24 |
SeanDaly |
Up to us, I had asked for 9AM to 6PM with possible extension to 7 or 8PM |
| 11:24 |
|
Maybe 10AM to 7PM better? |
| 11:25 |
|
they are somewhat flexible |
| 11:25 |
walterbender |
SeanDaly: I am fine either way... it is a short walk for me |
| 11:26 |
jt4sugar |
Think it would be valuable- XO Camp video stream was the thing that launched the Enhanced Learning Strategy relationship |
| 11:26 |
SeanDaly |
from my place it's 2 métro stops + short walk |
| 11:26 |
|
#LINK http://maps.google.com/maps?q=[…]ct=title&resnum=1 |
| 11:27 |
|
in fact walking from my place directly maybe faster than metro + walking |
| 11:27 |
|
About video: I want to prowl about on Saturday & film lots of snippets |
| 11:27 |
|
and of course Caroline's SoaS prez in fluent French |
| 11:28 |
caroline |
yeah what are we going to do about that? |
| 11:28 |
SeanDaly |
it's completely true that a film of our meeting will multiply its effectiveness -> deliverables |
| 11:29 |
|
caroline: we ask audience if English OK, if problematic I translate for you in realtime |
| 11:29 |
|
By the way do we have a YouTube channel or account or whatever? I don't |
| 11:29 |
tomeu |
btw, do you want me at that meeting? not sure how I could help there |
| 11:30 |
walterbender |
dailymotion!! |
| 11:30 |
|
they like ogg |
| 11:30 |
SeanDaly |
walterbender: how silly oof moi |
| 11:30 |
|
I miiltate for Ogg all the time too |
| 11:30 |
caroline |
Sean, my biggest worry is having people have sticks. |
| 11:31 |
SeanDaly |
maybe we should tell the lists that attendees should bring sticks? |
| 11:31 |
walterbender |
SeanDaly: more than one, so they can share |
| 11:31 |
jt4sugar |
Link to November SugarCamp Videos http://www.youtube.com/profile[…]otnet&view=videos |
| 11:32 |
SeanDaly |
I am finally managing to load sticks... on that Classmate with the fedora utility! |
| 11:32 |
|
And when II push in the SD card, boots SoaS beta-1 |
| 11:33 |
|
I'm having some success with a cool SD Card to USB adapter |
| 11:34 |
|
caroline: should we try to bring some extra sticks to load & hand out? |
| 11:34 |
caroline |
yes |
| 11:34 |
|
I just don't know how mnay I'll have time to make |
| 11:34 |
|
also shoudl we use the old beta on 5-31 beta |
| 11:34 |
SeanDaly |
erikos kindly loaded a stick for me at FOSDEM I thought the "while-u-wait" was really cool |
| 11:35 |
walterbender |
caroline: why the old beta? |
| 11:35 |
caroline |
the new one only has turtle art 41 :( |
| 11:36 |
SeanDaly |
by the way is what we call "beta-1" always the same, or are we swapping in a snapshot? |
| 11:36 |
caroline |
I'm just testing 5-31 now |
| 11:36 |
SeanDaly |
I've only been using the original "beta-1" but I am motivated to get a snapshot & submit hardware reports |
| 11:37 |
caroline |
I'll try to test the new beta a bit and I think I'll burn all new sticks to the new beta but not reburn |
| 11:38 |
SeanDaly |
here's a dumb question: do we have a little table somewhere that indicates what's working, what's not & what's new between v0.84 and the 0.82 currently on XOs? |
| 11:39 |
walterbender |
SeanDaly: the 0.84 releasenotes cover that |
| 11:39 |
SeanDaly |
I knew it was a dumb question :-) |
| 11:41 |
|
ah yes http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/D[…]ases/Sucrose/0.84 |
| 11:42 |
|
OK concerning the sitewide navigation bar: |
| 11:42 |
|
Christian will be coming back to me shortly with a version i want you all to look at |
| 11:43 |
|
the idea is a top bar with important stuff, but not too many choices |
| 11:43 |
|
and depending on the item some secondary choices appear below it |
| 11:45 |
|
The breakdown (as I suggested it) is in my April 3rd mail |
| 11:45 |
|
everyone who comments that nav is not good is correct, |
| 11:45 |
|
but I feel the worst difficulties will be eliminated by that navbar |
| 11:46 |
|
we can go back to single window and higher priorities |
| 11:47 |
|
ok anything else for marketing? |
| 11:48 |
caroline |
do we want to talk about the German magazine articles? |
| 11:48 |
SeanDaly |
caroline: ah yes |
| 11:48 |
caroline |
do we have next steps on how to replicate that success? |
| 11:48 |
tomeu |
btw, this may be interesting: http://www.jonobacon.org/2009/[…]-order-available/ |
| 11:49 |
SeanDaly |
get to know some journalists, develop the contacts :-) |
| 11:49 |
|
tomeu: yes interesting I read a positive review of it |
| 11:49 |
jt4sugar |
walterbender: Will you be discussing how Turtle Art portfolio integrates with other activities-Is it available for Soas |
| 11:50 |
walterbender |
jt4sugar: not sure I understand the question |
| 11:50 |
SeanDaly |
caroline: the major teacher-oriented publications in the US & France are on our mailing list |
| 11:50 |
|
caroline: but they get 100's of press releases every day |
| 11:50 |
|
We may want to consider mailing a few editoes a CD and/or stick? |
| 11:51 |
|
s/editoes/editors |
| 11:51 |
caroline |
Maybe we can translate the articles and mail those out? |
| 11:51 |
|
Sean, if we had money definitely |
| 11:51 |
SeanDaly |
caroline: if we have copyright reprint permission |
| 11:52 |
|
Another possibility is to stick the cover image on our press page |
| 11:52 |
caroline |
thats a good idea |
| 11:52 |
SeanDaly |
another shortcut is to make a video (!) where we open the magazine, pull out the CD, and boot a puter |
| 11:53 |
|
I don't know how to get our hands on a copy of the mag though :-( |
| 11:53 |
|
I asked for one |
| 11:54 |
caroline |
don't we have people coming from Germany? Can they by it anywhere? |
| 11:54 |
SeanDaly |
press coverage has a snowball effect, but limited to 1 country unless massive online |
| 11:55 |
|
i understood it was a limited-circulation specialist magazine for teachers but yes if anybody from Germany could find one that would be great |
| 11:55 |
|
Remember, version of Sugar was from last November |
| 11:55 |
caroline |
Maybe Simon, I think his wife is a teacher |
| 11:56 |
sdziallas |
I would try, but since I'm leaving for Cannes... sorry, I guess I won't be able to grab it. |
| 11:57 |
tomeu |
erikos: ^ |
| 11:57 |
|
benzea is also from .de but won't be coming, though his parents are both teachers |
| 11:57 |
|
he's in #sugar |
| 11:58 |
SeanDaly |
#LINK http://log-in-verlag.de/ |
| 11:59 |
|
#LINK http://log-in-verlag.de/wwwred[…]eft156/index.html |
| 11:59 |
|
let's ask ChristophD |
| 12:00 |
|
and RitaF |
| 12:00 |
caroline |
email them and ask them to send us one by mail to Paris? :) |
| 12:01 |
tomeu |
I think we already asked rita? |
| 12:01 |
SeanDaly |
Yes I can do that but in English or French only :-( |
| 12:02 |
caroline |
Asking sdz if he can translate for you. |
| 12:02 |
SeanDaly |
here's an idea: we pitch a Sugar theme for LiveCD to editors. But, is it as simple as burning a SoaS beta to CD? |
| 12:03 |
|
caroline: tell him brief graf |
| 12:05 |
sdziallas |
jumps in: what needs to be translated from German? |
| 12:05 |
SeanDaly |
sdziallas: we want to write a mail to LOG-IN and ask for a copy of magazine issue 156 with Sugar LiveCD |
| 12:06 |
sdziallas |
SeanDaly: If it wouldn't need to be too long, I guess I could do this. |
| 12:06 |
SeanDaly |
sdziallas: I promise will be short short short |
| 12:07 |
|
shall I wrap up marketing meeting, or anything else? |
| 12:07 |
caroline |
I'm good see you Friday! :) |
| 12:07 |
|
and probably talk to you quite a bit by email before that. |
| 12:07 |
sdziallas |
SeanDaly: do you want to write it in English and I'd translate it or should I just write something? Because I can only do this today. |
| 12:08 |
SeanDaly |
sdziallas: well, if you wouldn't mind writing to them (links above) and asking for a copy of issue 156? |
| 12:08 |
sdziallas |
SeanDaly: will do that :) |
| 12:09 |
SeanDaly |
many thanks!! |
| 12:09 |
|
I think e-mail is: |
| 12:09 |
|
redaktionspost log-in-verlag.de |
| 12:10 |
sdziallas |
oh, okay... I was about to use the web-form... |
| 12:10 |
SeanDaly |
webform fine too! do what takes least time for you |
| 12:10 |
sdziallas |
okay :) |
| 12:10 |
SeanDaly |
ok meeting going once, going twice... |
| 12:11 |
|
#endmeeting |