Time |
Nick |
Message |
10:08 |
homunq |
#topic gsoc |
10:08 |
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#TOPIC gsoc |
10:08 |
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ah, fergedit |
10:09 |
lucian1900 |
meeting, you suck |
10:09 |
homunq |
OK. I do not have a big agenda for this meeting, just wanted to check up on people |
10:09 |
lucian1900 |
meh, xobot would've had a snarky comeback |
10:10 |
homunq |
Let's see... start with walterbender and lucian1900 |
10:10 |
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anything to report? |
10:11 |
lucian1900 |
not really, i've been swamped with uni work |
10:11 |
walterbender |
lucian1900 did star a blog :) |
10:11 |
lucian1900 |
i did do some research into SSBs, i'll post a blog about what i found |
10:11 |
walterbender |
^star^start |
10:11 |
homunq |
That's OK. It hasn't really started yet. These meetings will pick up a lot later |
10:11 |
lucian1900 |
(btw, i had no idea Chrome had SSB support with Gears) |
10:12 |
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and i guess requesting an XO counts as some progress |
10:12 |
homunq |
OK, that's good. |
10:12 |
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Next up would be me and silbe |
10:13 |
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but it's totally my fault silbe's not here, so: I have nothing to report, except we did have a discussion about expectations of time involved |
10:14 |
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I said that it was OK for him to get a head start now, working long weeks (60 hrs) |
10:14 |
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then there were several weeks during the time frame when he could only work 25 hrs |
10:14 |
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and he could balance those off as long as he didn't fall behind overall. |
10:15 |
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Also, lucian1900, that's a good point, I will send an email to the ml reminding all students to request an xo |
10:15 |
bemasc |
homunq: I already did. |
10:16 |
homunq |
Oh, good. Thanks |
10:16 |
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OK. Subzero and Bryanwb are not here. |
10:17 |
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vamsi is over in #sugar but he didn't come here yet, just a sec |
10:18 |
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same with assimd. |
10:18 |
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bemasc, how is it going with assimd? |
10:18 |
bemasc |
I haven't actually spoken with assim |
10:19 |
homunq |
OK, I'd like you to try to do that. |
10:19 |
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I know that you do not need him to hold your hand, but he is still your mentor |
10:19 |
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and you still need to work out mutual expectations. |
10:20 |
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If he does not plan to keep in touch with you on at least a weekly basis, I'd prefer to reassign him. |
10:20 |
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I mean, reassign someone else. |
10:21 |
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As you can see, the weekly checkins do not have to be high-bandwidth (though I expect they will generally be higher bandwidth than this meeting) |
10:21 |
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but there should be something, so that there is somebody explicitly noticing if you fall off the planet. |
10:21 |
walterbender |
homunq: has GSoC actually started yet? |
10:21 |
homunq |
no |
10:22 |
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that's why this is so low-key right now |
10:22 |
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but I believe that we should still be getting in the habit |
10:22 |
walterbender |
homunq: I am trying to cut lucian1900 some slack so he doesn't flunk out of school :) |
10:22 |
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"don't be a fool, stay in school" |
10:22 |
homunq |
lucian1900: We understand that. |
10:22 |
lucian1900 |
walterbender: no need, at least not right now :) |
10:23 |
homunq |
bemasc: your thoughts on what I said? |
10:24 |
bemasc |
I have no great ideas here. I haven't "met" Assim, so I don't know how this will work. |
10:24 |
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I'm not in any great rush, seeing as it hasn't started yet. |
10:25 |
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As for status updates: |
10:25 |
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1. I'm busy until next Thursday working on my Preliminary Qualifying Exam Defense. |
10:25 |
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2. Over the weekend I whipped up http://lists.sugarlabs.org/arc[…]9-May/014165.html |
10:25 |
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which is a fully collaborative Terminal. |
10:25 |
homunq |
Well, you should have some sort of agreement/understanding before it starts |
10:25 |
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bemasc: I saw that, very cool. |
10:26 |
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is there some kind of sudo lock? |
10:26 |
bemasc |
It runs inside a Rainbow container. |
10:26 |
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Rainbow's unprivileged users are not in wheel or sudoers. |
10:26 |
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ShareTerm without Rainbow is Considered Harmful. |
10:27 |
homunq |
so it is 100% impossible to get a sudo, even if somebody wants to give it to you? |
10:27 |
bemasc |
Right. |
10:27 |
homunq |
(just asking, I have no color in mind for that bikeshed) |
10:27 |
bemasc |
Well, you could edit some source code. |
10:27 |
homunq |
OK. |
10:27 |
bemasc |
Eventually, we would like to have a privilege-granting system. |
10:28 |
homunq |
I can imagine |
10:28 |
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but it's a tricky issue. You really want some kind of "are you sure you want to do that" but those never work really. |
10:28 |
bemasc |
They work best when the user never sees them. |
10:29 |
homunq |
Ahh. So you have to set a privilege somewhere else? You don't get the dialog in your face? |
10:29 |
bemasc |
In other words, a design in which activities never request privileges, and users always to have to click through to the options-setting system under their own initiative. |
10:29 |
homunq |
that sounds better. |
10:29 |
bemasc |
But we are off topic. |
10:29 |
homunq |
OK yeah |
10:30 |
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I think that this meeting is done. |
10:30 |
lucian1900 |
bemasc: it's not like the current topic is particularly lively anyway :) |
10:30 |
homunq |
I apologize for not announcing it better. But this time and place seem to be the best for our weekly meeting. |
10:30 |
bemasc |
Anyway, I think we are done. |
10:30 |
homunq |
anybody else have anything to say? 5... 4.... |
10:31 |
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#endmeeting |
11:02 |
SeanDaly |
OK I'm afraid I'm going to continue my imperfect record, by not proposing an agenda again :-/ |
11:02 |
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However, I do have two topics I wish to discuss: |
11:02 |
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1) sugar video |
11:02 |
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2) menus for sl.o |
11:03 |
walterbender |
SeanDaly: and I add #3? |
11:03 |
SeanDaly |
walterbender, jt4sugar, any topics top-of-mind? |
11:03 |
walterbender |
SeanDaly: I spent the morning at BlackDuck. |
11:03 |
SeanDaly |
ah debrief will be welcome |
11:03 |
walterbender |
they want to help us with a mega splash for SoaS in the fall |
11:03 |
SeanDaly |
that's super-exciting |
11:04 |
jt4sugar |
SeanDaly: Having participants mind map meetings at Sugar Camp Paris |
11:04 |
SeanDaly |
jt4sugar: +1 yes we should maximize experience for those who can't make it |
11:05 |
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Re: SoaS in the fall: I'm mulling over how to make that launch "huge" |
11:05 |
jt4sugar |
SeanDaly: A where we've been-where we are-where were going format would be helpful to all in community |
11:06 |
SeanDaly |
jt4sugar: I agree especially since there will surely be discussions on where we're going :D |
11:06 |
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By the way did you see OLPC France exposure on France2 television this morning? |
11:06 |
walterbender |
SeanDaly: I missed it :) |
11:07 |
SeanDaly |
#LINK http://telematin.france2.fr/in[…]&dateVOD=20090505 |
11:07 |
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However, it's 42 minutes into a non-seekable streamed Windows Media file via Akamai |
11:07 |
jt4sugar |
SeanDaly: Gives chance to put Labriynth to the test |
11:08 |
SeanDaly |
But don't despair, mplayer can get it if necessary |
11:08 |
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Sugar not mentioned, but Home View prominently displayed... in front of millions of viewers (télématin is a very widely watched TV show in France) |
11:09 |
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OLPC France is raising money to equip a village in Madagascar with XOs |
11:10 |
jt4sugar |
SeanDaly: do you know what their funding model is |
11:10 |
SeanDaly |
jt4sugar: calling for public (small) donations, not sponsorships (télématin showed snailmail address for check remittances!) |
11:11 |
BryanWB |
homunq: is there a gsoc meeting tonight and where? |
11:11 |
SeanDaly |
They target 60K EUR which is a lot of roros |
11:11 |
iwikiwi |
BryanWB: we are in it :D |
11:11 |
walterbender |
BryanWB, homunq: can you use a different channel? This is the marketing meeting |
11:11 |
SeanDaly |
BryanWB: I saw a gsoc meeting an hour ago |
11:12 |
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OK so let's pre-brainstorm for SugarCamp Paris re: mega-launch SoaS in the fall |
11:12 |
walterbender |
SeanDaly: +1 |
11:12 |
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hpachas-PE: any chance there will be published results from Peru soon? |
11:13 |
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hpachas-PE: it would be excellent marketing material |
11:13 |
SeanDaly |
walterbender: +1 |
11:13 |
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I was very pleased to see that mail froom the school principal re: Sugar film |
11:14 |
hpachas-PE |
walterbender, estamos trabajando en ello |
11:14 |
walterbender |
hpachas-PE: gracia |
11:14 |
SeanDaly |
Caroline is on that but I'm wondering if she needs help with preproduction |
11:15 |
walterbender |
SeanDaly: there is a local middle school that I think will doa credible job |
11:15 |
SeanDaly |
On my side I'm testing some screen recorder techniques |
11:15 |
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walterbender: is that the school the principal mailed from? |
11:16 |
walterbender |
yes, sort of |
11:16 |
SeanDaly |
In my experience it's always best to give a brief (even a "brief" brief) before any filming actually starts |
11:17 |
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otherwise you flounder in endless rushes to try to tell a cohesive story |
11:17 |
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A well-edited video can be relayed by thousands of people |
11:18 |
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In our case I think not-so-slick is better |
11:18 |
walterbender |
SeanDaly: so how do we make that happen? |
11:18 |
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the brief, I mean |
11:19 |
SeanDaly |
Probably the best approach is to communicate our goals: we want to show Sugar in action, being used. We want to show that SoaS can boot disparate hardware. |
11:19 |
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We need the screens to be shown, not just people's hands clicking on mice |
11:20 |
jt4sugar |
We want to show multiple activities in action-I see 6 to 10 3 to 5 min videos or more |
11:20 |
walterbender |
SeanDaly: can we get these ideas written down on one place? |
11:20 |
SeanDaly |
I also think Caroline (or you walterbender) could appear to talk about it... transmit enthusiasm |
11:21 |
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walterbender: +1 yes this was why I was suggesting a scenario in my list mail last week |
11:21 |
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jt4sugar: +1 if lots of rushes, we coould edit more than 1 vid, or long/short versions of same vid |
11:21 |
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Should we set up a wiki page? |
11:22 |
walterbender |
SeanDaly: yes |
11:22 |
SeanDaly |
Or share a googledoc between ourselves (still getting used to not holding all cards close to chest) |
11:22 |
jt4sugar |
Explanation of seperate activities will go a long way |
11:23 |
SeanDaly |
#ACTION SD to set up wiki page to help middle school with production |
11:23 |
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jt4sugar: +1 yes and in fact we could suggest actions with certain activities which will put Sugar's best foot forward |
11:24 |
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For example, several classmates joining an activity |
11:25 |
jt4sugar |
Having a set of videos of Walter explaining-then set of kids using |
11:25 |
SeanDaly |
jt4sugar: walter, or caroline |
11:26 |
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or both :-) which was in my proposed (longish) scenario |
11:26 |
jt4sugar |
Both-Best to put Walter in there-reputation proceeds him |
11:27 |
SeanDaly |
jt4sugar: I agree... even for short phrases which sum up project |
11:27 |
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walterbender: soon you'll be surrounded by handlers :D |
11:28 |
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Can we talk about website menu structure? |
11:28 |
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On the basis of my concrete suggestions, Christian has put together some mockups |
11:29 |
jt4sugar |
Unfortunately must go at Doctors appt with Mom-will catch log-Have a good day! |
11:29 |
SeanDaly |
I really think he has understood how I want to solve those nav problems, but |
11:29 |
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I'm worried about dropping them on everybody without consensus |
11:30 |
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I don't evven know if it will be a lot or a little work to adapt the two-tier navbar to every site subsection |
11:31 |
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that said the marketing + iaep lists have been on copy... |
11:31 |
walterbender |
SeanDaly: where are the mock ups? haven;'t seen them |
11:32 |
SeanDaly |
walterbender: first version Christian sent to me to verify if he understood what I'm seeking, in fact I'm going to ask for a few changes but will forward that mail to you |
11:33 |
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my idea when Christian's mockups are ready is to do one more mail to be sure everyone is on the same page |
11:34 |
walterbender |
SeanDaly: sounds fine. |
11:36 |
SeanDaly |
Oh here's another thing: i was thinking of having a roll-up banner done |
11:36 |
walterbender |
SeanDaly: just looked. they look clean and simple :) |
11:36 |
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SeanDaly: I made one, but it is paper... we want a plastic one |
11:37 |
SeanDaly |
walterbender: yes, in classic Christian style I like them I just want to ask a couple of questions |
11:37 |
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I had a pro roll-up banner made for FSFE, it's glossy canvas in aluminum stand |
11:38 |
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They had it at FOSDEM in february |
11:38 |
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A roll-up banner can be very efffective, which is why most everybody has one for shows |
11:38 |
walterbender |
SeanDaly: we should have one for each continent... |
11:38 |
SeanDaly |
also efficient as backdrop for photo ops |
11:39 |
walterbender |
SeanDaly: other materials we need include a handout. |
11:39 |
SeanDaly |
walterbender: +1 yes I was thinking if Ii could get it done in time for SugarCamp Paris, could be used for LinuxTag too |
11:39 |
walterbender |
SeanDaly: did you see the poster from India I emailed this morning? |
11:39 |
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SeanDaly: it is about OLPC, but it has some nice elements to it |
11:39 |
SeanDaly |
no will look at that soon (mailing big file right now) |
11:40 |
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re handouts: I am very late on a 2-page PDF brochure I promised Caroline weeks ago and I want Christian to help me but I feel menu issue more urgent |
11:41 |
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I also want to get balloons done |
11:41 |
walterbender |
balloons? |
11:42 |
SeanDaly |
marketers love balloons because 1) inexpensive, 2) people esp. kids walk around with them, 3) very light & easy to transport, 4) gives bored booth volunteers something to do between pitches |
11:42 |
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black-logo on colored balloons available just about everywhere |
11:43 |
walterbender |
SeanDaly: OK. |
11:43 |
SeanDaly |
2-color and full-color logo balloons too, but of course colors don't look great |
11:43 |
walterbender |
SeanDaly: I'll see if we can get some Goodyear blimp time :) |
11:43 |
SeanDaly |
balloons are festive but the key question is always: air or helium? |
11:44 |
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helium=kids favorites & looks better but requires renting a canister :-/ |
11:44 |
walterbender |
SeanDaly: OK. Anything else we should cover today? |
11:44 |
SeanDaly |
i think that's it for now? |
11:45 |
walterbender |
OK. I need to head out for a bit... |
11:45 |
SeanDaly |
OK thanks! |
11:45 |
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#endmeeting |