| Time | Nick | Message |
|---|---|---|
| 10:08 | homunq | #topic gsoc |
| 10:08 | #TOPIC gsoc | |
| 10:08 | ah, fergedit | |
| 10:09 | lucian1900 | meeting, you suck |
| 10:09 | homunq | OK. I do not have a big agenda for this meeting, just wanted to check up on people |
| 10:09 | lucian1900 | meh, xobot would've had a snarky comeback |
| 10:10 | homunq | Let's see... start with walterbender and lucian1900 |
| 10:10 | anything to report? | |
| 10:11 | lucian1900 | not really, i've been swamped with uni work |
| 10:11 | walterbender | lucian1900 did star a blog :) |
| 10:11 | lucian1900 | i did do some research into SSBs, i'll post a blog about what i found |
| 10:11 | walterbender | ^star^start |
| 10:11 | homunq | That's OK. It hasn't really started yet. These meetings will pick up a lot later |
| 10:11 | lucian1900 | (btw, i had no idea Chrome had SSB support with Gears) |
| 10:12 | and i guess requesting an XO counts as some progress | |
| 10:12 | homunq | OK, that's good. |
| 10:12 | Next up would be me and silbe | |
| 10:13 | but it's totally my fault silbe's not here, so: I have nothing to report, except we did have a discussion about expectations of time involved | |
| 10:14 | I said that it was OK for him to get a head start now, working long weeks (60 hrs) | |
| 10:14 | then there were several weeks during the time frame when he could only work 25 hrs | |
| 10:14 | and he could balance those off as long as he didn't fall behind overall. | |
| 10:15 | Also, lucian1900, that's a good point, I will send an email to the ml reminding all students to request an xo | |
| 10:15 | bemasc | homunq: I already did. |
| 10:16 | homunq | Oh, good. Thanks |
| 10:16 | OK. Subzero and Bryanwb are not here. | |
| 10:17 | vamsi is over in #sugar but he didn't come here yet, just a sec | |
| 10:18 | same with assimd. | |
| 10:18 | bemasc, how is it going with assimd? | |
| 10:18 | bemasc | I haven't actually spoken with assim |
| 10:19 | homunq | OK, I'd like you to try to do that. |
| 10:19 | I know that you do not need him to hold your hand, but he is still your mentor | |
| 10:19 | and you still need to work out mutual expectations. | |
| 10:20 | If he does not plan to keep in touch with you on at least a weekly basis, I'd prefer to reassign him. | |
| 10:20 | I mean, reassign someone else. | |
| 10:21 | As you can see, the weekly checkins do not have to be high-bandwidth (though I expect they will generally be higher bandwidth than this meeting) | |
| 10:21 | but there should be something, so that there is somebody explicitly noticing if you fall off the planet. | |
| 10:21 | walterbender | homunq: has GSoC actually started yet? |
| 10:21 | homunq | no |
| 10:22 | that's why this is so low-key right now | |
| 10:22 | but I believe that we should still be getting in the habit | |
| 10:22 | walterbender | homunq: I am trying to cut lucian1900 some slack so he doesn't flunk out of school :) |
| 10:22 | "don't be a fool, stay in school" | |
| 10:22 | homunq | lucian1900: We understand that. |
| 10:22 | lucian1900 | walterbender: no need, at least not right now :) |
| 10:23 | homunq | bemasc: your thoughts on what I said? |
| 10:24 | bemasc | I have no great ideas here. I haven't "met" Assim, so I don't know how this will work. |
| 10:24 | I'm not in any great rush, seeing as it hasn't started yet. | |
| 10:25 | As for status updates: | |
| 10:25 | 1. I'm busy until next Thursday working on my Preliminary Qualifying Exam Defense. | |
| 10:25 | 2. Over the weekend I whipped up http://lists.sugarlabs.org/arc[…]9-May/014165.html | |
| 10:25 | which is a fully collaborative Terminal. | |
| 10:25 | homunq | Well, you should have some sort of agreement/understanding before it starts |
| 10:25 | bemasc: I saw that, very cool. | |
| 10:26 | is there some kind of sudo lock? | |
| 10:26 | bemasc | It runs inside a Rainbow container. |
| 10:26 | Rainbow's unprivileged users are not in wheel or sudoers. | |
| 10:26 | ShareTerm without Rainbow is Considered Harmful. | |
| 10:27 | homunq | so it is 100% impossible to get a sudo, even if somebody wants to give it to you? |
| 10:27 | bemasc | Right. |
| 10:27 | homunq | (just asking, I have no color in mind for that bikeshed) |
| 10:27 | bemasc | Well, you could edit some source code. |
| 10:27 | homunq | OK. |
| 10:27 | bemasc | Eventually, we would like to have a privilege-granting system. |
| 10:28 | homunq | I can imagine |
| 10:28 | but it's a tricky issue. You really want some kind of "are you sure you want to do that" but those never work really. | |
| 10:28 | bemasc | They work best when the user never sees them. |
| 10:29 | homunq | Ahh. So you have to set a privilege somewhere else? You don't get the dialog in your face? |
| 10:29 | bemasc | In other words, a design in which activities never request privileges, and users always to have to click through to the options-setting system under their own initiative. |
| 10:29 | homunq | that sounds better. |
| 10:29 | bemasc | But we are off topic. |
| 10:29 | homunq | OK yeah |
| 10:30 | I think that this meeting is done. | |
| 10:30 | lucian1900 | bemasc: it's not like the current topic is particularly lively anyway :) |
| 10:30 | homunq | I apologize for not announcing it better. But this time and place seem to be the best for our weekly meeting. |
| 10:30 | bemasc | Anyway, I think we are done. |
| 10:30 | homunq | anybody else have anything to say? 5... 4.... |
| 10:31 | #endmeeting | |
| 11:02 | SeanDaly | OK I'm afraid I'm going to continue my imperfect record, by not proposing an agenda again :-/ |
| 11:02 | However, I do have two topics I wish to discuss: | |
| 11:02 | 1) sugar video | |
| 11:02 | 2) menus for sl.o | |
| 11:03 | walterbender | SeanDaly: and I add #3? |
| 11:03 | SeanDaly | walterbender, jt4sugar, any topics top-of-mind? |
| 11:03 | walterbender | SeanDaly: I spent the morning at BlackDuck. |
| 11:03 | SeanDaly | ah debrief will be welcome |
| 11:03 | walterbender | they want to help us with a mega splash for SoaS in the fall |
| 11:03 | SeanDaly | that's super-exciting |
| 11:04 | jt4sugar | SeanDaly: Having participants mind map meetings at Sugar Camp Paris |
| 11:04 | SeanDaly | jt4sugar: +1 yes we should maximize experience for those who can't make it |
| 11:05 | Re: SoaS in the fall: I'm mulling over how to make that launch "huge" | |
| 11:05 | jt4sugar | SeanDaly: A where we've been-where we are-where were going format would be helpful to all in community |
| 11:06 | SeanDaly | jt4sugar: I agree especially since there will surely be discussions on where we're going :D |
| 11:06 | By the way did you see OLPC France exposure on France2 television this morning? | |
| 11:06 | walterbender | SeanDaly: I missed it :) |
| 11:07 | SeanDaly | #LINK http://telematin.france2.fr/in[…]&dateVOD=20090505 |
| 11:07 | However, it's 42 minutes into a non-seekable streamed Windows Media file via Akamai | |
| 11:07 | jt4sugar | SeanDaly: Gives chance to put Labriynth to the test |
| 11:08 | SeanDaly | But don't despair, mplayer can get it if necessary |
| 11:08 | Sugar not mentioned, but Home View prominently displayed... in front of millions of viewers (télématin is a very widely watched TV show in France) | |
| 11:09 | OLPC France is raising money to equip a village in Madagascar with XOs | |
| 11:10 | jt4sugar | SeanDaly: do you know what their funding model is |
| 11:10 | SeanDaly | jt4sugar: calling for public (small) donations, not sponsorships (télématin showed snailmail address for check remittances!) |
| 11:11 | BryanWB | homunq: is there a gsoc meeting tonight and where? |
| 11:11 | SeanDaly | They target 60K EUR which is a lot of roros |
| 11:11 | iwikiwi | BryanWB: we are in it :D |
| 11:11 | walterbender | BryanWB, homunq: can you use a different channel? This is the marketing meeting |
| 11:11 | SeanDaly | BryanWB: I saw a gsoc meeting an hour ago |
| 11:12 | OK so let's pre-brainstorm for SugarCamp Paris re: mega-launch SoaS in the fall | |
| 11:12 | walterbender | SeanDaly: +1 |
| 11:12 | hpachas-PE: any chance there will be published results from Peru soon? | |
| 11:13 | hpachas-PE: it would be excellent marketing material | |
| 11:13 | SeanDaly | walterbender: +1 |
| 11:13 | I was very pleased to see that mail froom the school principal re: Sugar film | |
| 11:14 | hpachas-PE | walterbender, estamos trabajando en ello |
| 11:14 | walterbender | hpachas-PE: gracia |
| 11:14 | SeanDaly | Caroline is on that but I'm wondering if she needs help with preproduction |
| 11:15 | walterbender | SeanDaly: there is a local middle school that I think will doa credible job |
| 11:15 | SeanDaly | On my side I'm testing some screen recorder techniques |
| 11:15 | walterbender: is that the school the principal mailed from? | |
| 11:16 | walterbender | yes, sort of |
| 11:16 | SeanDaly | In my experience it's always best to give a brief (even a "brief" brief) before any filming actually starts |
| 11:17 | otherwise you flounder in endless rushes to try to tell a cohesive story | |
| 11:17 | A well-edited video can be relayed by thousands of people | |
| 11:18 | In our case I think not-so-slick is better | |
| 11:18 | walterbender | SeanDaly: so how do we make that happen? |
| 11:18 | the brief, I mean | |
| 11:19 | SeanDaly | Probably the best approach is to communicate our goals: we want to show Sugar in action, being used. We want to show that SoaS can boot disparate hardware. |
| 11:19 | We need the screens to be shown, not just people's hands clicking on mice | |
| 11:20 | jt4sugar | We want to show multiple activities in action-I see 6 to 10 3 to 5 min videos or more |
| 11:20 | walterbender | SeanDaly: can we get these ideas written down on one place? |
| 11:20 | SeanDaly | I also think Caroline (or you walterbender) could appear to talk about it... transmit enthusiasm |
| 11:21 | walterbender: +1 yes this was why I was suggesting a scenario in my list mail last week | |
| 11:21 | jt4sugar: +1 if lots of rushes, we coould edit more than 1 vid, or long/short versions of same vid | |
| 11:21 | Should we set up a wiki page? | |
| 11:22 | walterbender | SeanDaly: yes |
| 11:22 | SeanDaly | Or share a googledoc between ourselves (still getting used to not holding all cards close to chest) |
| 11:22 | jt4sugar | Explanation of seperate activities will go a long way |
| 11:23 | SeanDaly | #ACTION SD to set up wiki page to help middle school with production |
| 11:23 | jt4sugar: +1 yes and in fact we could suggest actions with certain activities which will put Sugar's best foot forward | |
| 11:24 | For example, several classmates joining an activity | |
| 11:25 | jt4sugar | Having a set of videos of Walter explaining-then set of kids using |
| 11:25 | SeanDaly | jt4sugar: walter, or caroline |
| 11:26 | or both :-) which was in my proposed (longish) scenario | |
| 11:26 | jt4sugar | Both-Best to put Walter in there-reputation proceeds him |
| 11:27 | SeanDaly | jt4sugar: I agree... even for short phrases which sum up project |
| 11:27 | walterbender: soon you'll be surrounded by handlers :D | |
| 11:28 | Can we talk about website menu structure? | |
| 11:28 | On the basis of my concrete suggestions, Christian has put together some mockups | |
| 11:29 | jt4sugar | Unfortunately must go at Doctors appt with Mom-will catch log-Have a good day! |
| 11:29 | SeanDaly | I really think he has understood how I want to solve those nav problems, but |
| 11:29 | I'm worried about dropping them on everybody without consensus | |
| 11:30 | I don't evven know if it will be a lot or a little work to adapt the two-tier navbar to every site subsection | |
| 11:31 | that said the marketing + iaep lists have been on copy... | |
| 11:31 | walterbender | SeanDaly: where are the mock ups? haven;'t seen them |
| 11:32 | SeanDaly | walterbender: first version Christian sent to me to verify if he understood what I'm seeking, in fact I'm going to ask for a few changes but will forward that mail to you |
| 11:33 | my idea when Christian's mockups are ready is to do one more mail to be sure everyone is on the same page | |
| 11:34 | walterbender | SeanDaly: sounds fine. |
| 11:36 | SeanDaly | Oh here's another thing: i was thinking of having a roll-up banner done |
| 11:36 | walterbender | SeanDaly: just looked. they look clean and simple :) |
| 11:36 | SeanDaly: I made one, but it is paper... we want a plastic one | |
| 11:37 | SeanDaly | walterbender: yes, in classic Christian style I like them I just want to ask a couple of questions |
| 11:37 | I had a pro roll-up banner made for FSFE, it's glossy canvas in aluminum stand | |
| 11:38 | They had it at FOSDEM in february | |
| 11:38 | A roll-up banner can be very efffective, which is why most everybody has one for shows | |
| 11:38 | walterbender | SeanDaly: we should have one for each continent... |
| 11:38 | SeanDaly | also efficient as backdrop for photo ops |
| 11:39 | walterbender | SeanDaly: other materials we need include a handout. |
| 11:39 | SeanDaly | walterbender: +1 yes I was thinking if Ii could get it done in time for SugarCamp Paris, could be used for LinuxTag too |
| 11:39 | walterbender | SeanDaly: did you see the poster from India I emailed this morning? |
| 11:39 | SeanDaly: it is about OLPC, but it has some nice elements to it | |
| 11:39 | SeanDaly | no will look at that soon (mailing big file right now) |
| 11:40 | re handouts: I am very late on a 2-page PDF brochure I promised Caroline weeks ago and I want Christian to help me but I feel menu issue more urgent | |
| 11:41 | I also want to get balloons done | |
| 11:41 | walterbender | balloons? |
| 11:42 | SeanDaly | marketers love balloons because 1) inexpensive, 2) people esp. kids walk around with them, 3) very light & easy to transport, 4) gives bored booth volunteers something to do between pitches |
| 11:42 | black-logo on colored balloons available just about everywhere | |
| 11:43 | walterbender | SeanDaly: OK. |
| 11:43 | SeanDaly | 2-color and full-color logo balloons too, but of course colors don't look great |
| 11:43 | walterbender | SeanDaly: I'll see if we can get some Goodyear blimp time :) |
| 11:43 | SeanDaly | balloons are festive but the key question is always: air or helium? |
| 11:44 | helium=kids favorites & looks better but requires renting a canister :-/ | |
| 11:44 | walterbender | SeanDaly: OK. Anything else we should cover today? |
| 11:44 | SeanDaly | i think that's it for now? |
| 11:45 | walterbender | OK. I need to head out for a bit... |
| 11:45 | SeanDaly | OK thanks! |
| 11:45 | #endmeeting |