Time |
Nick |
Message |
10:03 |
erikos |
I have made a list at: http://erikos.sweettimez.de/?p=542 |
10:03 |
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what we should test today |
10:04 |
|
translation has to be taken out in latest Soas as we found already out that they are broken |
10:06 |
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#678 - tracks the issue |
10:06 |
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everyone has the latest image to test with? |
10:06 |
FGrose |
yes |
10:06 |
erikos |
http://download.sugarlabs.org/[…]-200904011025.iso |
10:06 |
prashant3535 |
Soas2-200904011025.iso |
10:06 |
erikos |
awesome! |
10:08 |
|
has to switch machines - back in a sec |
10:08 |
sdziallas |
is here and wants to be pinged if he'd be of help ;) |
10:09 |
erikos |
prashant3535, you ant to take #620? |
10:09 |
|
FGrose, how about you check #423 |
10:10 |
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sdziallas, how about 561 for you |
10:10 |
FGrose |
OK, I'll try |
10:13 |
erikos |
prashant3535, did you already know how to try Sugar on a Stick? |
10:13 |
prashant3535 |
i have prepared the stick |
10:13 |
erikos |
prashant3535, ok - and a machine to boot it with I guess |
10:13 |
sdziallas |
erikos: hang on, will try in some minutes |
10:13 |
prashant3535 |
of course |
10:14 |
erikos |
prashant3535, did it boot fine? |
10:14 |
prashant3535 |
yep |
10:14 |
erikos |
nice |
10:15 |
|
so we recently fixed http://dev.sugarlabs.org/ticket/620 |
10:15 |
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prashant3535, there are some activities installed by the system which are part of the Sugar base platform |
10:15 |
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prashant3535, those can not be erased |
10:15 |
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prashant3535, and some that can - additional activities |
10:16 |
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hi satyajeet - here for the testing meeting? |
10:17 |
prashant3535 |
the work around mentioned is to install activities in the liveuser /activities folder |
10:18 |
FGrose |
sdziallas: For VirtualBox setup I have these failures: http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/T[…]oas2-200904011025 |
10:18 |
erikos |
prashant3535, yes - we decided to solve it differently though |
10:18 |
sdziallas |
FGrose: wohoo... er, okay ;) |
10:18 |
erikos |
prashant3535, check the erase option in the palette |
10:19 |
prashant3535 |
erikos: just a min |
10:19 |
erikos |
when you right click on an activity icon |
10:19 |
satyajeet |
am here checking for sugar on stick meeting. |
10:19 |
erikos |
prashant3535, sure |
10:19 |
sdziallas |
FGrose: this is the most recent soas-2 iso image booted in virtualbox, right? |
10:19 |
erikos |
satyajeet, welcome - this is the right place |
10:19 |
FGrose |
sdziallas: correct, VBox beta |
10:19 |
erikos |
satyajeet, did you download the stick already? |
10:20 |
satyajeet |
ya |
10:20 |
erikos |
and booted as well? |
10:20 |
satyajeet |
am here as a listner, for learning |
10:20 |
|
no |
10:20 |
erikos |
satyajeet, that is good - you can ask of course questions anytime |
10:21 |
satyajeet |
:) |
10:21 |
erikos |
satyajeet, and we will try our best to answer them |
10:21 |
sdziallas |
FGrose: that's no good... haven't seen something like this before |
10:21 |
erikos |
satyajeet, try to boot it - and see if that works for you ;p |
10:21 |
|
is curious |
10:22 |
FGrose |
sdziallas: similar report for 0330 image: http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/T[…]oas2-200903301015 |
10:22 |
erikos |
FGrose, you always like to install things ;p |
10:23 |
FGrose |
erikos: Testing... |
10:23 |
erikos |
tomeu, the erase option looks good |
10:24 |
sdziallas |
FGrose: I recall we were doing this here somewhen in the %post part of the kickstart file: http://fpaste.org/paste/7583 |
10:24 |
prashant3535 |
erikos, when i right click any activity and select the erase option .. confirm ... nothin happens |
10:25 |
erikos |
prashant3535, you get the alert on the top of the page? |
10:25 |
prashant3535 |
erikos, yes .. after i click erase on the alert .. nothin |
10:26 |
tomeu |
cool |
10:26 |
erikos |
prashant3535, it isn't removed? |
10:26 |
prashant3535 |
erikos, nope |
10:26 |
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erikos, after removing i tried to open it .,.. it works perfectly |
10:27 |
erikos |
prashant3535, can you have a look in the logs - if there is something interesting |
10:27 |
prashant3535 |
erikos, lemme check |
10:27 |
erikos |
prashant3535, the log activity for example |
10:28 |
|
sdziallas, zut alors! we don't have the shell.log available :/ |
10:29 |
prashant3535 |
erikos, it has a Warning: root: No gtk.AccelGroup is the top level windows |
10:29 |
erikos |
prashant3535, this is harmless |
10:29 |
sdziallas |
erikos: ah, desole... crap, you're right. shell.log is not available and we can't remove the activities? |
10:29 |
|
what's this here? |
10:29 |
erikos |
sdziallas, I can remove activities :/ |
10:30 |
sdziallas |
I thought I can, too. Worked for me at least on Finance, if I recall correctly. |
10:30 |
prashant3535 |
i am able to view the shell.log |
10:30 |
sdziallas |
lol! |
10:30 |
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that's great! non-reproducable bugs are the best ;) |
10:31 |
prashant3535 |
:) |
10:32 |
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i tried to erase the Finance activity also, it doesnt like to be removed |
10:32 |
sdziallas |
hmmm! |
10:32 |
erikos |
prashant3535, do you run the image in emulation? |
10:32 |
prashant3535 |
erikos, nope, booted the stick on a desktop |
10:33 |
erikos |
prashant3535, hmmmm |
10:33 |
sdziallas |
erikos: hmmmmmmm ;) |
10:34 |
erikos |
livecd-iso-to-disk --overlay-size-mb 300 --home-size-mb 160 --unencrypted-home --delete-home Soas2-200904011025.iso /dev/sdb1 |
10:34 |
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prashant3535, did you use livecd-iso-to-disk to create the image? |
10:34 |
prashant3535 |
i used the liveusb-creator-3.6.3 |
10:35 |
sdziallas |
...which doesn't use the --home-size-mb switch, afaik. :/ |
10:36 |
|
dunno, how that affects us, though. |
10:36 |
erikos |
sdziallas, you mean - that one does not have access to the activities then? |
10:36 |
sdziallas |
erikos: normally one should, as we're placing them...... hehehe. yeah. |
10:36 |
erikos |
prashant3535, can you check who owns /home/liveuser ? |
10:36 |
prashant3535 |
sdziallas, while preparing i have set the Persistent Storage to 500 megs |
10:36 |
|
erikos, liveuser |
10:37 |
sdziallas |
erikos, prashant3535: the issue is, that we're placing the activities in /usr/share/sugar/honey... and linking those to /home/liveuser/Activities |
10:37 |
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but there are two different incarnations of /home around. |
10:37 |
|
tomeu figured that, if I recall correctly. |
10:37 |
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now it might well be that we're only putting it in one of those... |
10:38 |
erikos |
sdziallas, what is the reason why we need to link the activities in the first place? |
10:38 |
sdziallas |
erikos: because of these two /home incarnations |
10:38 |
erikos |
sdziallas, is home at install time not ready yet? |
10:38 |
sdziallas |
erikos: I think there's a /home getting mounted at boot time... |
10:39 |
prashant3535 |
erikos, the /usr/share/sugar/activites is owned by root ... liveuser doesnt have permissions to remove the activities |
10:39 |
sdziallas |
erikos: but we'd be placing the activities then into the old /home directoy. |
10:39 |
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prashant3535: and /usr/share/sugar/honey? |
10:40 |
prashant3535 |
sdziallas: there is no directory named honey in the sugar folder |
10:41 |
FGrose |
I could watch the mongoose, but no sound, in Speak either |
10:41 |
|
http://olpc.dailymotion.com/vi[…]g-a-cobra_animals |
10:41 |
prashant3535 |
be right back |
10:42 |
sdziallas |
hu? |
10:42 |
|
no honey directory?? |
10:44 |
erikos |
sdziallas, as well - the erase does only remove the links - not the activity itself in /usr/share/sugar/honey |
10:44 |
sdziallas |
erikos: but liveuser is owning all the files there - at least he should be... |
10:46 |
prashant3535 |
sdziallas: there are only 3 directories in the /usr/share/sugar .. activities, data and extensions |
10:46 |
|
no honey |
10:46 |
sdziallas |
okay, that's interesting... |
10:47 |
prashant3535 |
the activities folder has all the <name>.activity files which are also owned by root |
10:47 |
sdziallas |
prashant3535: yep, that's the way it should be, as those are getting installed via RPMs |
10:47 |
|
but the honey folder... hm! |
10:58 |
|
is still around, but in a second meeting now... |
10:58 |
erikos |
sdziallas, ok - we need to look into that issue once more |
10:58 |
|
sdziallas, it has a lot of issues |
10:59 |
|
prashant3535, do you have an AccessPoint you can check connectivity with? |
10:59 |
|
satyajeet, managed to boot it? |
10:59 |
sdziallas |
erikos: yeah, I'll try to help there later on... if you need me, ping me loudly ;) |
10:59 |
prashant3535 |
erikos, sugar doesnt support WPA2 |
10:59 |
|
erikos: i will have to disconnect my current connection to test it |
11:06 |
FGrose |
Browse crashed, only throbs on start new |
11:08 |
erikos |
;( |
11:09 |
|
FGrose, but it first started - or did it not start at all? |
11:09 |
FGrose |
erikos: It was running, but later crashed. |
11:10 |
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erikos: incomplete gmail download, now Journal doesn't refresh |
11:14 |
|
vu.lux.olpc.Speak-1.log: GStreamer-WARNING **: Failed to load plugin 'usr/lib/gstreamer-0.10/libgstpulse.so': libgdbm.so.2: cannot open shared object file: Stale NFS file handle |
11:15 |
|
rebooting VBox... |
11:16 |
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Interesting (to me), Home panel missing icons on selections now |
11:18 |
|
Selecting shutdown leads to a grey screen only |
11:18 |
erikos |
FGrose, doh |
11:18 |
prashant3535 |
interesting, i hadnt noticed this before ... it highlights the recently used activities |
11:19 |
erikos |
sdziallas, do we maybe miss the gstreamer plugin? |
11:19 |
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prashant3535, yup - this is a new addition |
11:19 |
sdziallas |
erikos: that might be, because... |
11:19 |
erikos |
prashant3535, and when you click on it - it resumes by default |
11:19 |
prashant3535 |
erikos: coool |
11:19 |
sdziallas |
erikos: well, I think we haven't added gstreamer-plugins explicitely to the Requirements to Jukeboyx |
11:20 |
erikos |
sdziallas, hmmm - do we not need it? |
11:22 |
sdziallas |
erikos: I'm not sure, I we might... could be a question for kushal; I'll need to double-check that, too |
11:23 |
erikos |
sdziallas, oki |
11:23 |
sdziallas |
curses about his schedule ;) |
11:23 |
erikos |
curses too |
11:24 |
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everybody: we had some good reports already - lets try to get this into tickets |
11:29 |
sdziallas |
kushal: ping |
11:30 |
kushal |
sdziallas, pong |
11:30 |
|
I just received a phone call telling there is some problem with jukebox and gstreamer |
11:30 |
sdziallas |
kushal: we were testing sugar on a stick recently... |
11:30 |
kushal |
can anyone paste the lines |
11:30 |
sdziallas |
oh, okay ;) |
11:30 |
kushal |
my connection is in bad condition |
11:31 |
|
sdziallas, what is the problem ? |
11:31 |
FGrose |
kushal: vu.lux.olpc.Speak-1.log: GStreamer-WARNING **: Failed to load plugin 'usr/lib/gstreamer-0.10/libgstpulse.so': libgdbm.so.2: cannot open shared object file: Stale NFS file handle |
11:31 |
sdziallas |
kushal: FGrose pasted some issue with speak and erikos suspected that we might be missing some gstreamer stuff |
11:31 |
erikos |
prashant3535, http://dev.sugarlabs.org/ticket/680 --- please add additional info if you have |
11:32 |
sdziallas |
kushal: and I said that I recall that we might be missing a Requirement on GStreamer in the Jukebox RPM |
11:32 |
kushal |
sdziallas, ok |
11:32 |
prashant3535 |
erikos: ok |
11:34 |
kdas |
sorry my laptop's x crashed |
11:35 |
sdziallas |
;) |
11:35 |
erikos |
sdziallas, how does it work for other things that we put into $home |
11:35 |
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sdziallas, like the .XClients |
11:35 |
sdziallas |
erikos: what do you mean exactly? how we're doing that? |
11:35 |
erikos |
sdziallas, those - we put directly or? |
11:36 |
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sdziallas, without linking |
11:36 |
sdziallas |
erikos: just doing cat >> /home/liveuser/.Xclients << FOE in the %post part |
11:36 |
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erikos: but we're pulling the activities using %post --nochroot |
11:36 |
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http://git.sugarlabs.org/proje[…]s/master/sugar.ks |
11:38 |
erikos |
sdziallas, and what does the nochroot do? |
11:39 |
sdziallas |
erikos: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/[…]ckstart#Chapter_5._Post-installation_Script |
11:42 |
erikos |
sdziallas, hmm - sorry I still do not understand why we need to have some of the stuff in --nochroot and soem we don't |
11:42 |
|
of the post directives |
11:42 |
|
I mean - they are both about copying files, unzipping etc |
11:43 |
sdziallas |
I thought it would mean that wouldn't run it with root permissions... but I might be wrong |
11:43 |
prashant3535 |
can somebody confirm this ... i changed the language from English (US) to Marathi (India) . it said it needs a reboot, i confirmed .. the only thing it did was log off and showed me the login screen |
11:43 |
erikos |
prashant3535, confirmed |
11:44 |
|
prashant3535, we have a ticket for that |
11:44 |
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prashant3535, but moved it to 0.86 |
11:44 |
prashant3535 |
erikos: ok |
11:44 |
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erikos: even after reboot, the language is not chnaged |
11:44 |
|
*changed |
11:44 |
erikos |
prashant3535, yes |
11:45 |
|
prashant3535, http://dev.sugarlabs.org/ticket/678 |
11:45 |
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prashant3535, sorry to say - this is another ticket :/ |
11:45 |
sdziallas |
erikos: according to the example, nochroot means to execute something on the just installed system?! |
11:45 |
prashant3535 |
:( |
11:46 |
erikos |
sdziallas, yeah |
11:47 |
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sdziallas, so - the result looks to me a bit the opposite |
11:47 |
sdziallas |
erikos: so you mean we should be doing that in %post, too? |
11:47 |
|
alsroot: do you probably know? |
11:47 |
erikos |
sdziallas, yup |
11:48 |
|
sdziallas, and without the linking |
11:48 |
sdziallas |
erikos: it might be worth a try... |
11:48 |
|
erikos: but then the stuff will end up in the wrong /home directory |
11:48 |
erikos |
sdziallas, so this is what i do not understand |
11:48 |
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sdziallas, since the other stuff in post does end up fine |
11:49 |
sdziallas |
erikos: ah, okay... I see that point. So probably giving the %post part a try might be our best guess then. |
11:49 |
erikos |
yes |
11:50 |
|
and try the language stuff in that one as well ;p |
11:50 |
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so we make prashant3535 happy ;D |
11:50 |
sdziallas |
okay, yeah ;) |
11:50 |
|
sounds like we should check what a new snapshot might bring |
11:50 |
erikos |
is all for that |
11:50 |
sdziallas |
:) |
11:50 |
prashant3535 |
:) |
11:51 |
sdziallas |
hang on, I'll grab something to eat, gimme some seconds... |
11:51 |
erikos |
sdziallas, sure! |
11:51 |
prashant3535 |
has anybody tried to remove the activities using the xo-get script ? |
11:53 |
|
http://xo-get.olpc.at/xo-get.py |
11:53 |
erikos |
prashant3535, the issue is in Soas |
11:54 |
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prashant3535, so this will not give us better test samples |
11:54 |
prashant3535 |
erikos: hmm |
11:56 |
erikos |
let's wrap up |
11:57 |
|
678 and 680 are definitly to fix |
11:57 |
sdziallas |
is back... |
11:57 |
erikos |
FGrose, did you have anything besides the espeak issue? |
11:57 |
|
FGrose, is it filed? |
11:58 |
FGrose |
erikos: working on logs for it now |
11:58 |
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erikos: also the yum install issue |
11:58 |
erikos |
FGrose, is this similar to the one you reported already? |
11:58 |
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FGrose, otherwise we should file it of course |
11:59 |
FGrose |
reported on the wiki, will file trac ticket |
11:59 |
erikos |
FGrose, i am about to boot as well - to see for the espeak issue |
11:59 |
|
FGrose, nice |
11:59 |
FGrose |
erikos: Speak is working with a persistent home now (previously I had none), i'm testing further |
12:00 |
erikos |
FGrose, ahhh - i guess this is this stale NFS error |
12:03 |
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FGrose, ok, just tried here Memorize and Speak |
12:03 |
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FGrose, both are ok |
12:09 |
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FGrose, ok - so sound looks fine here |
12:10 |
sdziallas |
mentions that erikos apparently can see sound ;) |
12:10 |
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...sorry, I'm a bit distracted (French Project needs to be finished by tomorrow) |
12:10 |
erikos |
sdziallas, right - I have magical powers |
12:10 |
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sdziallas, no worries that is fine |
12:10 |
sdziallas |
:) |
12:11 |
erikos |
everyone - i will close the meeting now |
12:11 |
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i hope you had at least a bit of fun |
12:11 |
sdziallas |
;) |
12:12 |
erikos |
any final comments? |
12:12 |
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shall we do this again next week? |
12:13 |
sdziallas |
+100000 |
12:13 |
erikos |
#endmeeting |