| Time | Nick | Message |
|---|---|---|
| 10:03 | erikos | I have made a list at: http://erikos.sweettimez.de/?p=542 |
| 10:03 | what we should test today | |
| 10:04 | translation has to be taken out in latest Soas as we found already out that they are broken | |
| 10:06 | #678 - tracks the issue | |
| 10:06 | everyone has the latest image to test with? | |
| 10:06 | FGrose | yes |
| 10:06 | erikos | http://download.sugarlabs.org/[…]-200904011025.iso |
| 10:06 | prashant3535 | Soas2-200904011025.iso |
| 10:06 | erikos | awesome! |
| 10:08 | has to switch machines - back in a sec | |
| 10:08 | sdziallas | is here and wants to be pinged if he'd be of help ;) |
| 10:09 | erikos | prashant3535, you ant to take #620? |
| 10:09 | FGrose, how about you check #423 | |
| 10:10 | sdziallas, how about 561 for you | |
| 10:10 | FGrose | OK, I'll try |
| 10:13 | erikos | prashant3535, did you already know how to try Sugar on a Stick? |
| 10:13 | prashant3535 | i have prepared the stick |
| 10:13 | erikos | prashant3535, ok - and a machine to boot it with I guess |
| 10:13 | sdziallas | erikos: hang on, will try in some minutes |
| 10:13 | prashant3535 | of course |
| 10:14 | erikos | prashant3535, did it boot fine? |
| 10:14 | prashant3535 | yep |
| 10:14 | erikos | nice |
| 10:15 | so we recently fixed http://dev.sugarlabs.org/ticket/620 | |
| 10:15 | prashant3535, there are some activities installed by the system which are part of the Sugar base platform | |
| 10:15 | prashant3535, those can not be erased | |
| 10:15 | prashant3535, and some that can - additional activities | |
| 10:16 | hi satyajeet - here for the testing meeting? | |
| 10:17 | prashant3535 | the work around mentioned is to install activities in the liveuser /activities folder |
| 10:18 | FGrose | sdziallas: For VirtualBox setup I have these failures: http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/T[…]oas2-200904011025 |
| 10:18 | erikos | prashant3535, yes - we decided to solve it differently though |
| 10:18 | sdziallas | FGrose: wohoo... er, okay ;) |
| 10:18 | erikos | prashant3535, check the erase option in the palette |
| 10:19 | prashant3535 | erikos: just a min |
| 10:19 | erikos | when you right click on an activity icon |
| 10:19 | satyajeet | am here checking for sugar on stick meeting. |
| 10:19 | erikos | prashant3535, sure |
| 10:19 | sdziallas | FGrose: this is the most recent soas-2 iso image booted in virtualbox, right? |
| 10:19 | erikos | satyajeet, welcome - this is the right place |
| 10:19 | FGrose | sdziallas: correct, VBox beta |
| 10:19 | erikos | satyajeet, did you download the stick already? |
| 10:20 | satyajeet | ya |
| 10:20 | erikos | and booted as well? |
| 10:20 | satyajeet | am here as a listner, for learning |
| 10:20 | no | |
| 10:20 | erikos | satyajeet, that is good - you can ask of course questions anytime |
| 10:21 | satyajeet | :) |
| 10:21 | erikos | satyajeet, and we will try our best to answer them |
| 10:21 | sdziallas | FGrose: that's no good... haven't seen something like this before |
| 10:21 | erikos | satyajeet, try to boot it - and see if that works for you ;p |
| 10:21 | is curious | |
| 10:22 | FGrose | sdziallas: similar report for 0330 image: http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/T[…]oas2-200903301015 |
| 10:22 | erikos | FGrose, you always like to install things ;p |
| 10:23 | FGrose | erikos: Testing... |
| 10:23 | erikos | tomeu, the erase option looks good |
| 10:24 | sdziallas | FGrose: I recall we were doing this here somewhen in the %post part of the kickstart file: http://fpaste.org/paste/7583 |
| 10:24 | prashant3535 | erikos, when i right click any activity and select the erase option .. confirm ... nothin happens |
| 10:25 | erikos | prashant3535, you get the alert on the top of the page? |
| 10:25 | prashant3535 | erikos, yes .. after i click erase on the alert .. nothin |
| 10:26 | tomeu | cool |
| 10:26 | erikos | prashant3535, it isn't removed? |
| 10:26 | prashant3535 | erikos, nope |
| 10:26 | erikos, after removing i tried to open it .,.. it works perfectly | |
| 10:27 | erikos | prashant3535, can you have a look in the logs - if there is something interesting |
| 10:27 | prashant3535 | erikos, lemme check |
| 10:27 | erikos | prashant3535, the log activity for example |
| 10:28 | sdziallas, zut alors! we don't have the shell.log available :/ | |
| 10:29 | prashant3535 | erikos, it has a Warning: root: No gtk.AccelGroup is the top level windows |
| 10:29 | erikos | prashant3535, this is harmless |
| 10:29 | sdziallas | erikos: ah, desole... crap, you're right. shell.log is not available and we can't remove the activities? |
| 10:29 | what's this here? | |
| 10:29 | erikos | sdziallas, I can remove activities :/ |
| 10:30 | sdziallas | I thought I can, too. Worked for me at least on Finance, if I recall correctly. |
| 10:30 | prashant3535 | i am able to view the shell.log |
| 10:30 | sdziallas | lol! |
| 10:30 | that's great! non-reproducable bugs are the best ;) | |
| 10:31 | prashant3535 | :) |
| 10:32 | i tried to erase the Finance activity also, it doesnt like to be removed | |
| 10:32 | sdziallas | hmmm! |
| 10:32 | erikos | prashant3535, do you run the image in emulation? |
| 10:32 | prashant3535 | erikos, nope, booted the stick on a desktop |
| 10:33 | erikos | prashant3535, hmmmm |
| 10:33 | sdziallas | erikos: hmmmmmmm ;) |
| 10:34 | erikos | livecd-iso-to-disk --overlay-size-mb 300 --home-size-mb 160 --unencrypted-home --delete-home Soas2-200904011025.iso /dev/sdb1 |
| 10:34 | prashant3535, did you use livecd-iso-to-disk to create the image? | |
| 10:34 | prashant3535 | i used the liveusb-creator-3.6.3 |
| 10:35 | sdziallas | ...which doesn't use the --home-size-mb switch, afaik. :/ |
| 10:36 | dunno, how that affects us, though. | |
| 10:36 | erikos | sdziallas, you mean - that one does not have access to the activities then? |
| 10:36 | sdziallas | erikos: normally one should, as we're placing them...... hehehe. yeah. |
| 10:36 | erikos | prashant3535, can you check who owns /home/liveuser ? |
| 10:36 | prashant3535 | sdziallas, while preparing i have set the Persistent Storage to 500 megs |
| 10:36 | erikos, liveuser | |
| 10:37 | sdziallas | erikos, prashant3535: the issue is, that we're placing the activities in /usr/share/sugar/honey... and linking those to /home/liveuser/Activities |
| 10:37 | but there are two different incarnations of /home around. | |
| 10:37 | tomeu figured that, if I recall correctly. | |
| 10:37 | now it might well be that we're only putting it in one of those... | |
| 10:38 | erikos | sdziallas, what is the reason why we need to link the activities in the first place? |
| 10:38 | sdziallas | erikos: because of these two /home incarnations |
| 10:38 | erikos | sdziallas, is home at install time not ready yet? |
| 10:38 | sdziallas | erikos: I think there's a /home getting mounted at boot time... |
| 10:39 | prashant3535 | erikos, the /usr/share/sugar/activites is owned by root ... liveuser doesnt have permissions to remove the activities |
| 10:39 | sdziallas | erikos: but we'd be placing the activities then into the old /home directoy. |
| 10:39 | prashant3535: and /usr/share/sugar/honey? | |
| 10:40 | prashant3535 | sdziallas: there is no directory named honey in the sugar folder |
| 10:41 | FGrose | I could watch the mongoose, but no sound, in Speak either |
| 10:41 | http://olpc.dailymotion.com/vi[…]g-a-cobra_animals | |
| 10:41 | prashant3535 | be right back |
| 10:42 | sdziallas | hu? |
| 10:42 | no honey directory?? | |
| 10:44 | erikos | sdziallas, as well - the erase does only remove the links - not the activity itself in /usr/share/sugar/honey |
| 10:44 | sdziallas | erikos: but liveuser is owning all the files there - at least he should be... |
| 10:46 | prashant3535 | sdziallas: there are only 3 directories in the /usr/share/sugar .. activities, data and extensions |
| 10:46 | no honey | |
| 10:46 | sdziallas | okay, that's interesting... |
| 10:47 | prashant3535 | the activities folder has all the <name>.activity files which are also owned by root |
| 10:47 | sdziallas | prashant3535: yep, that's the way it should be, as those are getting installed via RPMs |
| 10:47 | but the honey folder... hm! | |
| 10:58 | is still around, but in a second meeting now... | |
| 10:58 | erikos | sdziallas, ok - we need to look into that issue once more |
| 10:58 | sdziallas, it has a lot of issues | |
| 10:59 | prashant3535, do you have an AccessPoint you can check connectivity with? | |
| 10:59 | satyajeet, managed to boot it? | |
| 10:59 | sdziallas | erikos: yeah, I'll try to help there later on... if you need me, ping me loudly ;) |
| 10:59 | prashant3535 | erikos, sugar doesnt support WPA2 |
| 10:59 | erikos: i will have to disconnect my current connection to test it | |
| 11:06 | FGrose | Browse crashed, only throbs on start new |
| 11:08 | erikos | ;( |
| 11:09 | FGrose, but it first started - or did it not start at all? | |
| 11:09 | FGrose | erikos: It was running, but later crashed. |
| 11:10 | erikos: incomplete gmail download, now Journal doesn't refresh | |
| 11:14 | vu.lux.olpc.Speak-1.log: GStreamer-WARNING **: Failed to load plugin 'usr/lib/gstreamer-0.10/libgstpulse.so': libgdbm.so.2: cannot open shared object file: Stale NFS file handle | |
| 11:15 | rebooting VBox... | |
| 11:16 | Interesting (to me), Home panel missing icons on selections now | |
| 11:18 | Selecting shutdown leads to a grey screen only | |
| 11:18 | erikos | FGrose, doh |
| 11:18 | prashant3535 | interesting, i hadnt noticed this before ... it highlights the recently used activities |
| 11:19 | erikos | sdziallas, do we maybe miss the gstreamer plugin? |
| 11:19 | prashant3535, yup - this is a new addition | |
| 11:19 | sdziallas | erikos: that might be, because... |
| 11:19 | erikos | prashant3535, and when you click on it - it resumes by default |
| 11:19 | prashant3535 | erikos: coool |
| 11:19 | sdziallas | erikos: well, I think we haven't added gstreamer-plugins explicitely to the Requirements to Jukeboyx |
| 11:20 | erikos | sdziallas, hmmm - do we not need it? |
| 11:22 | sdziallas | erikos: I'm not sure, I we might... could be a question for kushal; I'll need to double-check that, too |
| 11:23 | erikos | sdziallas, oki |
| 11:23 | sdziallas | curses about his schedule ;) |
| 11:23 | erikos | curses too |
| 11:24 | everybody: we had some good reports already - lets try to get this into tickets | |
| 11:29 | sdziallas | kushal: ping |
| 11:30 | kushal | sdziallas, pong |
| 11:30 | I just received a phone call telling there is some problem with jukebox and gstreamer | |
| 11:30 | sdziallas | kushal: we were testing sugar on a stick recently... |
| 11:30 | kushal | can anyone paste the lines |
| 11:30 | sdziallas | oh, okay ;) |
| 11:30 | kushal | my connection is in bad condition |
| 11:31 | sdziallas, what is the problem ? | |
| 11:31 | FGrose | kushal: vu.lux.olpc.Speak-1.log: GStreamer-WARNING **: Failed to load plugin 'usr/lib/gstreamer-0.10/libgstpulse.so': libgdbm.so.2: cannot open shared object file: Stale NFS file handle |
| 11:31 | sdziallas | kushal: FGrose pasted some issue with speak and erikos suspected that we might be missing some gstreamer stuff |
| 11:31 | erikos | prashant3535, http://dev.sugarlabs.org/ticket/680 --- please add additional info if you have |
| 11:32 | sdziallas | kushal: and I said that I recall that we might be missing a Requirement on GStreamer in the Jukebox RPM |
| 11:32 | kushal | sdziallas, ok |
| 11:32 | prashant3535 | erikos: ok |
| 11:34 | kdas | sorry my laptop's x crashed |
| 11:35 | sdziallas | ;) |
| 11:35 | erikos | sdziallas, how does it work for other things that we put into $home |
| 11:35 | sdziallas, like the .XClients | |
| 11:35 | sdziallas | erikos: what do you mean exactly? how we're doing that? |
| 11:35 | erikos | sdziallas, those - we put directly or? |
| 11:36 | sdziallas, without linking | |
| 11:36 | sdziallas | erikos: just doing cat >> /home/liveuser/.Xclients << FOE in the %post part |
| 11:36 | erikos: but we're pulling the activities using %post --nochroot | |
| 11:36 | http://git.sugarlabs.org/proje[…]s/master/sugar.ks | |
| 11:38 | erikos | sdziallas, and what does the nochroot do? |
| 11:39 | sdziallas | erikos: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/[…]ckstart#Chapter_5._Post-installation_Script |
| 11:42 | erikos | sdziallas, hmm - sorry I still do not understand why we need to have some of the stuff in --nochroot and soem we don't |
| 11:42 | of the post directives | |
| 11:42 | I mean - they are both about copying files, unzipping etc | |
| 11:43 | sdziallas | I thought it would mean that wouldn't run it with root permissions... but I might be wrong |
| 11:43 | prashant3535 | can somebody confirm this ... i changed the language from English (US) to Marathi (India) . it said it needs a reboot, i confirmed .. the only thing it did was log off and showed me the login screen |
| 11:43 | erikos | prashant3535, confirmed |
| 11:44 | prashant3535, we have a ticket for that | |
| 11:44 | prashant3535, but moved it to 0.86 | |
| 11:44 | prashant3535 | erikos: ok |
| 11:44 | erikos: even after reboot, the language is not chnaged | |
| 11:44 | *changed | |
| 11:44 | erikos | prashant3535, yes |
| 11:45 | prashant3535, http://dev.sugarlabs.org/ticket/678 | |
| 11:45 | prashant3535, sorry to say - this is another ticket :/ | |
| 11:45 | sdziallas | erikos: according to the example, nochroot means to execute something on the just installed system?! |
| 11:45 | prashant3535 | :( |
| 11:46 | erikos | sdziallas, yeah |
| 11:47 | sdziallas, so - the result looks to me a bit the opposite | |
| 11:47 | sdziallas | erikos: so you mean we should be doing that in %post, too? |
| 11:47 | alsroot: do you probably know? | |
| 11:47 | erikos | sdziallas, yup |
| 11:48 | sdziallas, and without the linking | |
| 11:48 | sdziallas | erikos: it might be worth a try... |
| 11:48 | erikos: but then the stuff will end up in the wrong /home directory | |
| 11:48 | erikos | sdziallas, so this is what i do not understand |
| 11:48 | sdziallas, since the other stuff in post does end up fine | |
| 11:49 | sdziallas | erikos: ah, okay... I see that point. So probably giving the %post part a try might be our best guess then. |
| 11:49 | erikos | yes |
| 11:50 | and try the language stuff in that one as well ;p | |
| 11:50 | so we make prashant3535 happy ;D | |
| 11:50 | sdziallas | okay, yeah ;) |
| 11:50 | sounds like we should check what a new snapshot might bring | |
| 11:50 | erikos | is all for that |
| 11:50 | sdziallas | :) |
| 11:50 | prashant3535 | :) |
| 11:51 | sdziallas | hang on, I'll grab something to eat, gimme some seconds... |
| 11:51 | erikos | sdziallas, sure! |
| 11:51 | prashant3535 | has anybody tried to remove the activities using the xo-get script ? |
| 11:53 | http://xo-get.olpc.at/xo-get.py | |
| 11:53 | erikos | prashant3535, the issue is in Soas |
| 11:54 | prashant3535, so this will not give us better test samples | |
| 11:54 | prashant3535 | erikos: hmm |
| 11:56 | erikos | let's wrap up |
| 11:57 | 678 and 680 are definitly to fix | |
| 11:57 | sdziallas | is back... |
| 11:57 | erikos | FGrose, did you have anything besides the espeak issue? |
| 11:57 | FGrose, is it filed? | |
| 11:58 | FGrose | erikos: working on logs for it now |
| 11:58 | erikos: also the yum install issue | |
| 11:58 | erikos | FGrose, is this similar to the one you reported already? |
| 11:58 | FGrose, otherwise we should file it of course | |
| 11:59 | FGrose | reported on the wiki, will file trac ticket |
| 11:59 | erikos | FGrose, i am about to boot as well - to see for the espeak issue |
| 11:59 | FGrose, nice | |
| 11:59 | FGrose | erikos: Speak is working with a persistent home now (previously I had none), i'm testing further |
| 12:00 | erikos | FGrose, ahhh - i guess this is this stale NFS error |
| 12:03 | FGrose, ok, just tried here Memorize and Speak | |
| 12:03 | FGrose, both are ok | |
| 12:09 | FGrose, ok - so sound looks fine here | |
| 12:10 | sdziallas | mentions that erikos apparently can see sound ;) |
| 12:10 | ...sorry, I'm a bit distracted (French Project needs to be finished by tomorrow) | |
| 12:10 | erikos | sdziallas, right - I have magical powers |
| 12:10 | sdziallas, no worries that is fine | |
| 12:10 | sdziallas | :) |
| 12:11 | erikos | everyone - i will close the meeting now |
| 12:11 | i hope you had at least a bit of fun | |
| 12:11 | sdziallas | ;) |
| 12:12 | erikos | any final comments? |
| 12:12 | shall we do this again next week? | |
| 12:13 | sdziallas | +100000 |
| 12:13 | erikos | #endmeeting |