| Time | Nick | Message |
|---|---|---|
| 10:07 | tomeu1 | cool! |
| 10:07 | Gregorio2 | I'm listening between e-mails, just noticed this meeting anouncement and thought I would sit in on a slow day at the office |
| 10:07 | dfarning_ | #topic Introduction |
| 10:08 | #topic | |
| 10:08 | hey Gregorio2 | |
| 10:08 | #TOPIC introductions | |
| 10:09 | #TOPIC | |
| 10:10 | hey, I thought the bot would respond the #topic somehow | |
| 10:11 | As far as introductions, I am known most places as david or dfarning | |
| 10:11 | I work mostly on operations and community stuff | |
| 10:12 | anyone else? | |
| 10:13 | ok, onto the next topic | |
| 10:13 | #topic - wiki needs assessment | |
| 10:15 | last week, gregdek pointed out a number of issues with our wiki:( | |
| 10:15 | gregdek | Oh, no frowny faces. It's all good! |
| 10:15 | Everything evolves. :) | |
| 10:16 | dfarning_ | Over the week end we start looking at many of those problems |
| 10:17 | the biggest issue seems to be lack of ownership and maintenance of the teams wiki space. | |
| 10:19 | The lack of active maintenance reflect a lack of activity on the team. | |
| 10:19 | gregdek | Yep. |
| 10:19 | (Who all is around, btw?) | |
| 10:19 | dfarning_ | gregdek: tomeu1 and Gregorio2 |
| 10:19 | small start | |
| 10:20 | gregdek | Mighty oaks from tiny acorns grow. ;) |
| 10:20 | tomeu1 | small seed... |
| 10:20 | right ;) | |
| 10:21 | dfarning_ | A question for gregdek. How do we increase team participation? |
| 10:21 | gregdek | Beg. :) |
| 10:21 | Seriously, though: it depends. | |
| 10:22 | It starts with a strong leader, and the feeling of *stability*. | |
| 10:22 | People are more likely, in my experience, to come to a meeting if they know it's going to happen every week, and if they are expected to be there and accomplish something. | |
| 10:22 | Gregorio2 | IMHO the e-mail from Greg D on how to create a team was great! |
| 10:22 | gregdek | If a team is three people but consistently operates as a strong team, their team has a good chance of growing. |
| 10:23 | dfarning_ | How do we find those leaders. All of the people raising their hands are already over booked. |
| 10:23 | gregdek | Good point. |
| 10:23 | That's a tough one. | |
| 10:23 | Which is why I'm currently focusing on marketing. | |
| 10:23 | I think there aren't enough people who know about Sugar and are psyched about it. | |
| 10:24 | And if that means that some of our teams are just put into mothballs for now for lack of resources, so be it. | |
| 10:24 | dfarning_ | which teams should we mothball? |
| 10:24 | gregdek | I think it's crucially important to do a few things well, rather than a bunch of things poorly. |
| 10:24 | Well... | |
| 10:24 | looks. | |
| 10:25 | Accessibility looks completely barren. | |
| 10:25 | (The URL is even misspelled.) | |
| 10:25 | dfarning_ | build, localization, translation are also weak |
| 10:25 | gregdek | Build could be rolled into engineering, I think -- tomeu1? |
| 10:26 | tomeu1 | engineering is a team? |
| 10:26 | dfarning_ | If we kill the teams. How do we express that these are areas the need help now or in the future? |
| 10:26 | gregdek | Development, rather. :) |
| 10:26 | tomeu1 | hmm |
| 10:26 | gregdek | dfarning_: A good question. |
| 10:27 | tomeu1 | it's something between deployment and development |
| 10:27 | gregdek | thinks. |
| 10:27 | dfarning_ | deployment has take off since Sugar started shipping on distros:) |
| 10:28 | tomeu1 | for now, given who are doing builds, maybe build can be put into development |
| 10:28 | and later spun off | |
| 10:28 | gregdek | Yeah. |
| 10:28 | tomeu1 | if lots of distro people get into the deployment team, then we can move builds to there |
| 10:28 | gregdek | My guess is that if a role continues to be obvious, it can always be spun off later. |
| 10:29 | tomeu1 | making sure that sugar is well packaged in distros is a very important task for SL |
| 10:29 | gregdek | So translation and localization... |
| 10:29 | tomeu1: Yes, indeed. | |
| 10:29 | tomeu1 | though should be the distros themselves who do that |
| 10:29 | dfarning_ | development is a better fit. Deployment is focused on the stuff local people need to set up a deployment |
| 10:30 | gregdek | My only question with Deployment at this point is, who's coordinating it? |
| 10:30 | dfarning_ | gregdek: walter is |
| 10:30 | gregdek | Well, and what are the goals of the Deployment team itself? To provide local deployments with whatever direction they need? |
| 10:31 | dfarning_ | gregdek: yes, I believe so. |
| 10:31 | gregdek | The mission of the Deployment Team is to voice the needs of Sugar deployments to the Sugar community, to find ways to support those needs, and to organize forums for the exchange of experiences between Sugar users and Sugar developers. |
| 10:31 | OK. Pretty strong. | |
| 10:32 | I think the Deployment pages could be better organized, but I'll leave that to Walter. | |
| 10:33 | Do you think he'd have any objection if I edited the DeploymentTeam page to note that Walter is the coordinator? | |
| 10:33 | dfarning_ | the transition should go from development to deployment to schools.sugarlabs.org |
| 10:34 | gregdek: yes, him and some help from some good people on a colombia deployment | |
| 10:34 | tomeu1 | dirakx, I think |
| 10:35 | gregdek | nods. |
| 10:35 | dfarning_ | I think we can list walter as coordinator |
| 10:35 | gregdek | Walter can delegate however he sees fit, but I think it's important to have one person accountable. |
| 10:36 | dfarning_ | ok |
| 10:36 | dirakx | dfarning_: tomeu1 yes .i think walter can be coordinator and delegate some task to me or others. |
| 10:36 | gregdek | And if Walter chooses to hand that job to some other sucker, that's fine too. :) |
| 10:37 | dfarning_ | gregdek: what about education? |
| 10:37 | gregdek | Perhaps dirakx may be the right coordinator at some point, since Walter has so many other duties... |
| 10:37 | goes to Education. | |
| 10:37 | dfarning_ | It is almost impossible to get that going. |
| 10:38 | dirakx | gregdek: yes i'm up to that job. ;) |
| 10:38 | gregdek | dirakx: Perhaps we should ask Walter to allow you to lead that team, then. :) |
| 10:38 | dfarning_ | Every time we find someone the -ism folks chase them off |
| 10:38 | gregdek | takes a deep breath. |
| 10:38 | So. | |
| 10:39 | dirakx | gregdek: yep, np |
| 10:39 | dfarning_ | dirakx: sounds good |
| 10:39 | gregdek | If you can't state the mission of your team in two concise, *actionable* sentences, then you're not much good as a team. My take. |
| 10:39 | dirakx | dfarning_: ok |
| 10:39 | gregdek | What's the goal of the Education team? |
| 10:40 | dfarning_ | I don't know, My background in education is very weak |
| 10:41 | I am looking at it as the place to engage teachers in using the platform effectively. | |
| 10:41 | gregdek | :) |
| 10:41 | See, that makes sense to me. | |
| 10:42 | dirakx | me too i think it's a place to discuss with teachers- |
| 10:42 | gregdek | How do we drive that? |
| 10:42 | dirakx | i tried to engage professors at uruguay to complement it..but no luck yet. |
| 10:43 | gregdek | So what are we asking teachers to do? |
| 10:43 | Let's say we set up the Education team. | |
| 10:43 | tomeu1 | has been asked by a teacher in uruguay for help in maintaining a min-mapping activity |
| 10:43 | gregdek | And we advertise the hell out of it, and a hundred teachers show up. |
| 10:43 | What are we asking them to do? | |
| 10:43 | dfarning_ | teams for swartmore, uw madison are going to start working on the s.s.o moodle |
| 10:43 | walter | hello all... |
| 10:43 | gregdek | Oooh, that's good. |
| 10:43 | Hey walter. :) | |
| 10:44 | dfarning_ | walter: hello |
| 10:44 | dirakx | tomeu1: thx for sugarizing labyrinth btw.;) |
| 10:44 | dfarning_ | we are just talking about how to bring the education team to life |
| 10:44 | dirakx | walter: hello |
| 10:44 | walter | it is an education project, after all... |
| 10:44 | dfarning_ | specifically how to engage teachers and what we want they to do |
| 10:44 | gregdek | Building and maintaining a killer moodle instance is a good, actionable goal. |
| 10:45 | walter | We need to get the OLPC-Sur folks involved beyond their mailing list... |
| 10:45 | gregdek | walter: Do you have a url for their list archive? |
| 10:45 | walter | They are mostly educators and are really beginning to show leadership. |
| 10:45 | dfarning_ | nice |
| 10:45 | tomeu1 | dirakx: just a start, let's see if Paola takes it further |
| 10:45 | walter | http://lists.laptop.org/pipermail/olpc-sur/ |
| 10:46 | gregdek | Ah si. |
| 10:47 | dirakx | olpc-sur ++ |
| 10:47 | gregdek | Great list. Great activity. |
| 10:47 | So what would the Education team do that, say, the Deployment team does not do? | |
| 10:48 | dirakx | i wish we had other lists of that kind |
| 10:48 | gregdek | dirakx: Perhaps we could. :) |
| 10:48 | dfarning_ | Education works on creating the leasson plans and teacher education materials? |
| 10:48 | walter | not sure they shouldn't be joined at the hip, but the education team, IMHO, would be more focused on theory and the deployment team on practice |
| 10:48 | the education team would be advocating why Sugar and the deployment team how Sugar | |
| 10:49 | dfarning_ | walter: that make sense |
| 10:49 | dirakx | gregdek: yep..i think with time.. |
| 10:49 | marcopg | "why Sugar" seems to overlap with marketing? |
| 10:49 | walter | the education team would make sure that the deployments didn't stray too far from the learning mission |
| 10:49 | dirakx | walter: agree |
| 10:49 | gregdek | And what does the education team do in that regard? |
| 10:49 | walter | The Venn diagram is quite complex... |
| 10:50 | gregdek | Here's my point: |
| 10:50 | walter | I think that Bill Kerr is a good one to keep a good dialog going re the Why |
| 10:50 | gregdek | It's much simpler to recruit volunteers to do simple, comprehensible things. |
| 10:50 | walter | and an education team can serve as a resource to marketing and deployment |
| 10:51 | we need to develop a clear set of why Sugar resources--is that not a comprehensible thing? | |
| 10:51 | gregdek | Yes. |
| 10:51 | That makes sense. | |
| 10:51 | walter | (just like we need to beef up the how Sugar resources as well) |
| 10:52 | gregdek | So the Education team is responsible for developing collateral to sell the benefits of Sugar. Yes? |
| 10:52 | Who can lead that team? | |
| 10:52 | walter | I am sorry I came late, but it seems to me that the wiki needs to be able to answer both questions to a variety of audiences |
| 10:52 | ministers and administrators, teachers and parents, kids and hackers | |
| 10:53 | I nominate Bill (as I did in the DML proposal)... he has a good network of educators to tap as well. | |
| 10:53 | dfarning_ | walter would you mind shifting your efforts to the education team and dirakx can step up with the deployment team |
| 10:53 | walter | I could do that... |
| 10:53 | gregdek | Would Bill welcome your nomination? :) |
| 10:54 | walter | I can ask... |
| 10:54 | dirakx | compromises to lead deployment then if walter agrees. |
| 10:54 | walter | There are other people who would be great to bring on board: Juliano, for example. |
| 10:55 | And to get some of the education folks from the deployments more involved, like Maria in Peru, would help. | |
| 10:55 | dfarning_ | There is a lot of latent interest on the education side, no one seems able to grab a hold a get started |
| 10:55 | walter | I had the same problem at OLPC. |
| 10:56 | We need someone who is a good communicator, which is one of Bill Kerr's strengths... | |
| 10:56 | marcopg | Caroline could also help with it? |
| 10:56 | walter | Yes, Carolyn too. |
| 10:56 | dfarning_ | once we have a framework caroline will be great |
| 10:57 | walter | Maybe it really is time to make a 3-circle Venn diagram for Sugar Labs. |
| 10:57 | marcopg | I guess the action item is to check with Bill if he wants to do it, then |
| 10:57 | there are several good people he can involved | |
| 10:57 | walter | Education, Technology, and Outreach being the main circles? |
| 10:57 | marcopg | but having someone lead the effort will help bringing things forward |
| 10:58 | walter | and in the seams, deployment, marketing, release? |
| 10:58 | gregdek | I don't know so much about Venn diagrams. I know about actionable goals and leaders. :) |
| 10:58 | walter | Or is deployment in the overlap of all three... |
| 10:58 | I agree, but having a structure helps people define clear goals that are more focused | |
| 10:59 | gregdek | Sure. |
| 10:59 | dfarning_ | yes, It also fit the mission, vision, values theme |
| 10:59 | walter | I think the fact that we don't know the difference between education and deployment suggests we don't have the level of clarity of goal yet to go forward. |
| 11:00 | gregdek | Then having defined teams for Education and Deployment was probably a bit hasty. :) |
| 11:00 | Or, alternately: | |
| 11:00 | walter | One of Greg's action item is for each team is a mission statement. |
| 11:01 | Let's pull all these mission statements together on one page so we can see how it all fits together | |
| 11:01 | gregdek | Yep. |
| 11:01 | But here's the catch-22, and why I went from the leadership end first: | |
| 11:01 | Who articulates these mission statements? | |
| 11:02 | If it's us, then I guess we put together some straw men and get busy. :) | |
| 11:02 | marcopg | it would be great to have the leaders articulate them |
| 11:02 | walter | Yes, we need to prime the pump, but we already have a first pass: http://www.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_Labs outlines the three circles... |
| 11:02 | gregdek | This is perhaps an ideal session for next week. |
| 11:02 | _bernie | crap, I _really_ missed the meeting :-( |
| 11:02 | dfarning_ | ok, I'll make a page under community to collect the various team missions and how they fit into the overall mission |
| 11:02 | _bernie | that was unintentional |
| 11:02 | walter | and we have a first pass at missions for some of the teams already |
| 11:03 | dirakx | _bernie: you have to get up earlier. ;). |
| 11:03 | marcopg | we should send out email remainders just before starting the meetings |
| 11:03 | walter | a bit of wiki include magic could make a quick strawman that could be used for the next discussion |
| 11:03 | marcopg | and perhaps pinging #sugar too |
| 11:03 | tomeu1 | loved how xobot announced the meetings |
| 11:03 | gregdek | Do we have an uberbot that can handle logging/reminders/agendas/etc.? |
| 11:04 | marcopg | our bot handles logging |
| 11:04 | can also log actions and similar stuff | |
| 11:05 | don't think he can send out reminders though | |
| 11:05 | dfarning_ | with regard to to clearly communicating mission... that would be Walter:) |
| 11:05 | marcopg | http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot |
| 11:07 | dfarning_ | so for next week should each leam leader start draft a team mission statement |
| 11:07 | _bernie | dirakx: I'm a geek, Jim, not a white collar, damn it! |
| 11:07 | dfarning_ | which we can discuss in boston? |
| 11:08 | marcopg | dfarning_: we need to find those leaders though :) |
| 11:08 | some of the teams are not really owner | |
| 11:08 | dirakx | _bernie: haha.. |
| 11:08 | walter | I think to Greg's point, if a team is leaderless, it is useless... |
| 11:08 | marcopg | I agree |
| 11:08 | let's delete the teams without a leader ;) | |
| 11:09 | dfarning_ | accessibility -> prune |
| 11:09 | walter | So we need to find leadership or not expect to accomplish those tasks. |
| 11:09 | marcopg | we would better find one for Education, but I think we agreed to ask Bill? |
| 11:09 | walter | +1 |
| 11:09 | marcopg | dfarning_: Build too |
| 11:09 | dfarning_ | build -> prune |
| 11:09 | deployment -> dirakx | |
| 11:10 | gregdek | translation = wiki translation, right? |
| 11:10 | dirakx | dfarning_: ok :) |
| 11:10 | gregdek | and localization = Sugar localization, right? |
| 11:10 | dfarning_ | what about design? is eben up for it? |
| 11:10 | marcopg | yup |
| 11:11 | gregdek | Yay Eben! |
| 11:11 | marcopg | gregdek: think so, but it's just a symlink to olpc right now :) |
| 11:11 | dfarning_ | localization -> prune |
| 11:11 | gregdek | So that brings up another question. |
| 11:11 | dfarning_ | let oplc handle it for now |
| 11:11 | gregdek | If we're symlinking an entire *team* to elsewhere, do we need a team at all? |
| 11:12 | worries about politics in cases like this... | |
| 11:12 | marcopg | imo, nope |
| 11:12 | localization -> prune | |
| 11:12 | _bernie | mchua: ciao! |
| 11:12 | marcopg | hi mchua |
| 11:12 | dfarning_ | hi mchua |
| 11:12 | dirakx | mchua: greetings. |
| 11:12 | gregdek | I get the feeling that there are some things we'd *like* for Sugar to "own", but we don't yet have the resources to make that feasible. |
| 11:12 | marcopg | yeah localization is one of these |
| 11:12 | _bernie | gregdek: right |
| 11:13 | gregdek: but I'm fine in taking one baby step at a time | |
| 11:13 | gregdek | Brilliant. |
| 11:13 | Then let's cut to the bone. | |
| 11:13 | marcopg | what about Documentation? |
| 11:13 | mchua | hey folks! Just read the backlog; sorry I'm late. (This conversation sounds *great*, btw.) |
| 11:13 | _bernie | marcopg: developer or end user? |
| 11:14 | I think we have good end-user documentation that needs more translations | |
| 11:14 | marcopg | oh and I want to merge Development and Release |
| 11:14 | _bernie | but developer documentation is lacking. |
| 11:14 | gregdek | mchua: Does activity testing belong under Sugar Labs or OLPC? <evil grin> |
| 11:14 | marcopg | _bernie: end user I think |
| 11:14 | Sugar labs! | |
| 11:14 | _bernie | dfarning_: are you still maintaining api.sugarlabs.org? |
| 11:14 | gregdek | So let's back up... |
| 11:14 | ...who *owns* documentation? | |
| 11:14 | _bernie | Sometimes I feel we don't advertise these services enough on our wiki |
| 11:15 | dfarning_ | I can restart it. |
| 11:15 | _bernie | for example, few people know about planet.sugarlabs.org |
| 11:15 | marcopg | Dave seem the one that did more work on it so far, but he owns something else right? |
| 11:15 | walter | I've started a new page: http://www.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_Labs/Teams |
| 11:15 | _bernie | dfarning_: I guess it can live on develer's machine for now |
| 11:15 | marcopg | _bernie: felt the same about planet yesterday |
| 11:16 | gregdek | waits for an answer to the ownership question. :) |
| 11:16 | marcopg | so no owner for Documentation? |
| 11:16 | _bernie | marcopg: how about a prominent link to "User resources" and "Developer Resources" in our main page? |
| 11:17 | pushes dfarning forward | |
| 11:17 | marcopg | _bernie: sounds like one click too far, planet should be one of the few links on the first page imo |
| 11:17 | _bernie: I'd like to have a much simpler first page :/ | |
| 11:17 | _bernie | marcopg: yes, but our main page is _way_ too crowded already |
| 11:17 | dirakx | in favor of discussion could be one person lead two teams? |
| 11:17 | _bernie | we need to reorg it for simplicity |
| 11:17 | marcopg | _bernie: yeah, we need to redesign it |
| 11:17 | dirakx | s/could/can |
| 11:18 | mchua | gregdek: XO-specific testing belongs under OLPC. Activity testing in general belongs in SL. |
| 11:18 | _bernie | let's make it essential, web2.0-style |
| 11:18 | dfarning_ | ok, I'll take documentation too |
| 11:18 | mchua | gregdek: My great hope is to migrate this. ;) So if you have your Fedora testers rarin' to go on Activities... |
| 11:18 | marcopg | yay! |
| 11:18 | dirakx | :) |
| 11:18 | gregdek | mchua: We'll get there. :) |
| 11:18 | _bernie | I would drop the translation box, or make it shrink, or move it to the bottom |
| 11:18 | mchua | would love to help lead one of these teams, but is pretty hosed atm. |
| 11:19 | gregdek | WHO OWNS DOCUMENTATION? (Did I miss it?) |
| 11:19 | mchua | dfarning_! |
| 11:19 | marcopg | mchua: you could peer testing :) |
| 11:19 | gregdek: yeah you did | |
| 11:19 | gregdek | Oh. |
| 11:19 | _bernie | pushes dfarning again |
| 11:19 | dfarning_ | dirakx: yes, we are currently a bit short of people crazy enough to make the commitment |
| 11:19 | gregdek | I did miss it! LOL. |
| 11:19 | _bernie | kicks dfarning |
| 11:19 | dirakx | dfarning_: ok ;) |
| 11:19 | dfarning_ | yes, I will, thanks _bernie |
| 11:20 | _bernie | ;-) |
| 11:20 | tomeu1 | heh |
| 11:20 | gregdek | Oh, and by the way... |
| 11:20 | ...which actual meeting are we in? | |
| 11:20 | I just wandered in at 10:05 and discovered a meeting happening. Is that bad? :) | |
| 11:20 | mchua | too |
| 11:20 | marcopg | who owns testing? |
| 11:20 | dfarning_ | gregdek: wikiteam |
| 11:20 | gregdek | mchua. |
| 11:20 | marcopg | heheh |
| 11:20 | gregdek: wiki meeting | |
| 11:21 | gregdek | OK. Seems to have become a governance meeting. :) |
| 11:21 | dfarning_ | does simon have time for testing with mel, and caroline |
| 11:21 | marcopg | dfarning_: yeah wonder if Simon would lead the team |
| 11:21 | mchua | +1 to simon owning the SL testing team |
| 11:21 | marcopg | he is not here, I can ask |
| 11:21 | gregdek | So testing is... Sugar itself? |
| 11:21 | _bernie | gregdek: this is what happens if we keep scheduling our meetings at geek-unfriendly times |
| 11:22 | gregdek | _bernie: waah. ;) |
| 11:22 | marcopg | gregdek: sugar and activities |
| 11:22 | mchua | I'm doing OLPC community test, and would rather have a separate SL team leader to work with, so as to do the upstream-downstream separating thing |
| 11:22 | Ooh, I could do Activity test, if Simon can do Sugar test. | |
| 11:22 | gregdek | _bernie: If you were a *real* geek, you wouldn't even have gone to sleep yet! |
| 11:22 | _bernie | mchua: makes sense |
| 11:22 | mchua | Arguably the two should be separate as well. |
| 11:22 | gregdek | Yep. |
| 11:22 | marcopg | erikos is coming |
| 11:22 | dfarning_ | At least they are all at the same time |
| 11:22 | _bernie | mchua: plus, I guess sugar QA testing should happen ~1 month before the olpc one. |
| 11:23 | mchua | _bernie: YES |
| 11:23 | PLEASE YES | |
| 11:23 | gregdek | So... I guess that someone is updating the wiki with all these newfound leaders? |
| 11:23 | Are we actually creating new teams as well? | |
| 11:23 | mchua | hey erikos! |
| 11:23 | erikos | hello |
| 11:23 | gregdek | doesn't want to lose track of which teams we have. |
| 11:23 | _bernie | integration test is usually done after each component passed qa individually... otherwise it's very painful. |
| 11:23 | opensource should be no exception | |
| 11:23 | marcopg | gregdek: where does the leaders go? |
| 11:23 | on the wiki that is | |
| 11:24 | gregdek | Undefined yet. For me: |
| 11:24 | mchua | dfarning_: ^^ |
| 11:24 | gregdek | Right on the first page. |
| 11:24 | http://sugarlabs.org/go/MarketingTeam | |
| 11:24 | dfarning_ | hey erikos how would you like to take charge of the sl testing team |
| 11:24 | gregdek | Mission, Coordinator, Goals. |
| 11:24 | marcopg | erikos: so people are fanboying you as Testing lead |
| 11:24 | gregdek: +1 | |
| 11:24 | gregdek | Yay erikos! Hurrah, erikos! GO, TestingTeam, GO! |
| 11:25 | mchua | erikos: I'd happily volunteer as your Activity Testing lieutenant. |
| 11:25 | marcopg | should we turn that into a template or some wiki magic dfarning_? |
| 11:25 | erikos | sure sounds fine with me |
| 11:25 | gregdek | wanders afk briefly... |
| 11:25 | dfarning_ | gregdek: the meetbot is logging.... so we won't lose anyones commitment |
| 11:26 | erikos | hoped he would have advanced more until today on it already, but...:/ |
| 11:26 | marcopg | erikos: well we was blocked on infra |
| 11:26 | now we are no more ; | |
| 11:26 | dfarning_ | marcopg: I'll work on a template |
| 11:26 | marcopg | awesome |
| 11:26 | and then we can extract leads from this log | |
| 11:27 | erikos | marcopg: sure that was some of my point ;p |
| 11:27 | mchua | dfarning_: wiki documentation sprint when you come this weekend? I'd love to block out time to help with that, but don't have bandwidth right now |
| 11:27 | dfarning_ | and, as we all know, IRC logs are binding |
| 11:27 | mchua: yes, sounds good | |
| 11:28 | marcopg | should we wrap up? |
| 11:28 | we are already 22 minutes late... | |
| 11:28 | dfarning_ | it looks like we have leaders for all of he teams we want to keep |
| 11:28 | _bernie | dfarning_: the meeting bot should have some #action command too |
| 11:28 | marcopg | dfarning_: you taking action to destroy the others? |
| 11:28 | _bernie | dogi: we need you |
| 11:28 | marcopg | dfarning_: I'll do the Release/Dev merge |
| 11:29 | _bernie: it does | |
| 11:29 | #ACTION dfarning to kill teams we don't want to keep | |
| 11:29 | _bernie | marcopg: then please add action items for the things we said |
| 11:29 | marcopg | (not sure if that's the right syntax :P) |
| 11:29 | _bernie | marcopg: uh I guess dfarning needs to do it, he's the chair of this meeting |
| 11:30 | dfarning_ | I won't destroy them, Instead, I remove unneeded links and tag them as inactive] |
| 11:30 | marcopg | let dfarning_ create actions |
| 11:30 | _bernie | seems fair |
| 11:30 | dfarning_ | in case some one wants to pick them up later |
| 11:30 | marcopg | you just need to use #action |
| 11:30 | yeah | |
| 11:30 | dfarning_ | #action kill unneeded teams |
| 11:31 | marcopg | action for mchua to publish her notes about running meetings :) |
| 11:31 | dfarning_ | is there anything else to talk about |
| 11:31 | mchua | marcopg: feel free to foward my email to you - I've got it on my todo list to finish the long spiel, and then shorten it. ;) |
| 11:32 | marcopg | mchua: ok to forward to iaep? |
| 11:32 | cjb | hola amigos |
| 11:32 | dirakx | ck |
| 11:32 | Gregorio2 | dirakx just checking in after being out for a while and noticed your comment: "we need more lists like sur" not sure what you are looking for but I can give you the background on how that was created and make some suggestions on how to do it again if you are interested |
| 11:32 | dirakx | cjb: hola |
| 11:32 | cjb | would love to see an English summary of sur each week |
| 11:33 | just "So-and-so discussed Foo and came to the conclusion that Bar" would be great | |
| 11:33 | dfarning_ | #endmeeting |