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| 12:08 | mukesh_dce | tch: hi |
| 12:09 | tch | mukesh_dce: hello :) |
| 12:09 | mukesh_dce: did you find useful the information i sent? | |
| 12:10 | mukesh_dce | tch: yes ,i read that |
| 12:12 | tch: you said as a first step we should install abrt daemon,and configure it | |
| 12:12 | tch: i used in it fedora though didn't try to install it on ubuntu | |
| 12:13 | tch | mukesh_dce: if you have fedora it should be already installed, |
| 12:13 | mukesh_dce | tch: yup ,i am using ubuntu for devel |
| 12:13 | tch | mukesh_dce: yup, since we use fedora for our builds you don't need to try on another distro |
| 12:14 | mukesh_dce | tch:will abrt work with ubuntu ? |
| 12:15 | tch | mukesh_dce: i am not sure atm, but i would not waste time trying to make it work |
| 12:17 | mukesh_dce: about the second step, i tried to find the dbus objects/interfaces/methods specifications but could not find it, but.. i found out that ABRT supports plugin, so we could just use those for the automatic reporting | |
| 12:18 | mukesh_dce: also tried to figure out if it possible to tell ABRT to check for user level applications that are not part of fedora packages, i saw something in the configuration file but did not work.. not sure why, yet. | |
| 12:20 | so, we need to know: C) Can we make ABRT to listen to sugar crashes/unhandled exceptions? (this is a critical requirement) | |
| 12:20 | mukesh_dce: ^ | |
| 12:22 | mukesh_dce | tch: they say we need to have hooks for handling every type of crashes |
| 12:23 | tch: and plugins to produce the crash dump data | |
| 12:24 | tch: one question , is it possible to deploy the existing abrt daemon on sugar ? | |
| 12:25 | tch | as part of sugar? |
| 12:25 | mukesh_dce | tch: yes ? |
| 12:27 | tch | not sure, |
| 12:27 | i can think of many reasons of why that could not happen, | |
| 12:27 | for example, as you mentioned it before, i don't know what is required to work outside of fedora.. | |
| 12:28 | i think we should stick to make it work for fedora first.. | |
| 12:28 | i mean.. for our fedora based builds | |
| 12:29 | mukesh_dce | tch: i am a bit confused about what would be the final application structure would be like ? |
| 12:30 | tch: how would we communicate to abrt daemon on sugar.. | |
| 12:30 | tch | mukesh_dce: i am too, since i don't fully understand the ABRT architecture yet.. but.. definitely there are many elements from ABRT that we don;t need |
| 12:31 | mukesh_dce: the client should communicate to the daemon through Dbus | |
| 12:31 | mukesh_dce: actually that is what abrt-applet does | |
| 12:31 | and abrt-gui too | |
| 12:33 | mukesh_dce: we need to do more research, because maybe we don't even need to implement a client on sugar.. if we can achieve what we need only with the plugins | |
| 12:34 | mukesh_dce: when have not even decided how much the user should interact with abrt yet.. | |
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| 12:36 | tch | mukesh_dce: wb |
| 12:36 | mukesh_dce | tch: sorrt network prob |
| 12:37 | tch | mukesh_dce: as i said, IF we need a client in sugar.. we would have to communicate to the daemon using Dbus..(that is how it currently works in gnome) |
| 12:38 | mukesh_dce: but.. we need to know what are our options and define what exactly we need (depending on level of user interaction with ABRT (it should not be high) ) | |
| 12:44 | mukesh_dce: it is still a little bit unsure to me if we can use ABRT for what we want... all i know now is that ABRT can handle python stuff... | |
| 12:45 | mukesh_dce | tch: if we need minimal functionality can we write a separate daemon for this purpose ? |
| 12:48 | m_anish | mukesh_dce, -1 for separate daemon if abrt can do the job (it allows us to be scalable) |
| 12:49 | mukesh_dce | m_anish: existing abrt works for fedora based builds only |
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| 12:54 | tch | mukesh_dce, m_anish: thats why it is important to figure out if ABRT can do what we want and see how many options (in ABRT) we do have.. first. |
| 12:56 | mukesh_dce, m_anish: guess we should ask here https://fedorahosted.org/mailm[…]nfo/crash-catcher | |
| 12:59 | mukesh_dce: think you can write to these guys explaining what we need? | |
| 13:00 | mukesh_dce | tch: sure, just a final recall so that we do not miss anything |
| 13:01 | a daemon to catch the crashes on sugar | |
| 13:01 | and a client that could interact to the daemon | |
| 13:01 | if we can use abrt for that | |
| 13:03 | architecture could be deployed on different distros | |
| 13:04 | tch: m_anish : do i miss anything ? | |
| 13:05 | m_anish | mukesh_dce, looks fine :) |
| 13:05 | tch | mukesh_dce: yep, lets see what these guys respond.. |
| 13:09 | mukesh_dce | m_anish: tch : my subscription to the ml waits for approval ,will send it once it gets approved |
| 13:10 | m_anish | m_anish, kk |
| 13:10 | mukesh_dce, ok | |
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