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#olpc-paraguay, 2011-01-03

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20:56 bernie m_anish: suburashi!
20:57 m_anish bernie, ??
20:57 bernie m_anish: ask tch
20:57 m_anish bernie, ok
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20:57 m_anish bernie, happy new yr!
20:58 bernie m_anish: arigato gozai mas
20:59 m_anish: whenever you want, please replace the updater patch in dextrose and rebuild the sugar rpm
20:59 m_anish: so you learn the full procedure :)
21:00 m_anish bernie, okay :)
21:01 bernie, i'm guessing this is anime "arigato gozai mas" . translate.google.com, sadly, doesn't detect anime
21:01 translate.anime.org is needed
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21:06 m_anish bernie, translate.carlos.py was here, thanks ;-)
21:06 yw
21:06 bernie haha
21:06 m_anish: it means "thank you very much"... but I think it's normal japanese. only, romanji-zied
21:07 romanji == our alphabet
21:07 m_anish bernie, k :)
21:08 bernie, know of any trick that allows me to unlock xo's in less than 24 hrs?
21:09 bernie m_anish: you should get admin access to the machine that generates keys for laptops
21:10 m_anish bernie, ok, rralcala says that there is a key server in the office, that just died bec. of a fan problem
21:10 bernie m_anish: http://wiki.paraguayeduca.org/[…]aas_documentation
21:10 m_anish: damn... on what machine was it running?
21:10 m_anish: is carlos in the office?
21:10 m_anish bernie, i'm alone atm, everyone has left
21:11 bernie, i don't remember the exact name, sounded something like punto(??) :-)
21:11 bernie m_anish: it was here: http://a.paraguayeduca.org/
21:11 m_anish: the machines are: paofila, robbie, buho, mothership, amnesia
21:12 m_anish bernie, anyway, it won't be fixed today, i'll fill in the uuid and s.nos. on http://activation.laptop.org/devkey/post/
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21:17 bernie m_anish: if you give me the S# and UUID of the machine, I could generate a key for you on the fly using the OLPC activation server
21:17 m_anish: reubencaron (also lurking in this channel) can also do it
21:18 m_anish bernie, hmm, wait then... i only have limited no. of chargers :)
21:18 bernie m_anish: if you need sysadmin support and carlos is not around, try pinging me. I still have root everywhere.
21:19 m_anish k
21:19 bernie m_anish: the fastest way to collect the U# and S# is through a collection stick
21:19 m_anish: I recommend preparing one and keeping it always handy.
21:20 m_anish: if you need to share the same key for collection, activation and other functions, you can rename the olpc directory to "oloc.act" so you can quickly restore it when needed
21:20 m_anish: working with the XOs involves a lot of USB stick juggling. make sure you have always 2-3 usb sticks with you! if not, ask [scs] to buy some
21:21 m_anish bernie, i have one with me
21:21 bernie m_anish: another tip from your predecessor: buy only very fast sticks! you'll have to reflash laptops hundeds of times, it's frustrating to wait several minutes every time
21:21 [scs]: ^^^
21:21 m_anish bernie, k
21:22 bernie m_anish: amnesia seems to be dead
21:22 m_anish: is carlos around?
21:22 m_anish bernie, are you aware of a particular model that worked very well
21:22 bernie, nopes, just me and mosquitoes :)
21:23 bernie m_anish: hmm, the best usb stick I have is a black kingston, but the chips vary with time. benchmarking a copy of a large file to the stick is the only way to know
21:23 m_anish bernie, hmm ok
21:24 bernie m_anish: here, two shell functions for your ~/.bashrc that will come handy when you transfer builds to the usb sticks:
21:24 putzd()  { [ -d $1 ] && rm -f $1/os*.{img,crc,zd} && cp os*.zd $1/  &&                   cp os*.zsp.fs.zip $1/fs.zip; umount $1; }
21:24 putimg() { [ -d $1 ] && rm -f $1/os*.{img,crc,zd} && cp os*.crc $1/ && cp os*.img $1/ && cp os*.img.fs.zip $1/fs.zip; umount $1; }
21:24 m_anish: use them like so:
21:24 cd build/output
21:25 putzd /media/MYUSBSTICK
21:25 m_anish bernie, thanks
21:25 bernie, arigato gozai mas :)
21:41 bernie, the usb drive went bust :((((
21:41 trying another
21:45 bernie m_anish: haha, they do die
21:46 m_anish: never buy bad quality ones for heavy-duty use
21:46 m_anish 6) SHC83702029 64CE02A9-652B-44BF-BFFD-B3DB72A080F3 20110103T214113Z
21:46 5) SHC837020F6 A7CEB427-D354-46A0-BE25-A99350A682EB 20110103T213949Z
21:48 damn, one of the laptops screwed up the laptops.dat file
21:48 i have 6 with me atm
21:49 4) SHC83701C05 4F6A898C-0395-4E84-9BBC-2AFF614F2F83 20110103T215140Z
21:51 3) SHC838007CC 37AA2487-CA77-488A-AFF1-A0310CEFCAA7 20110103T215258Z
21:52 2) SHC83800770 10F1667B-164E-484F-B2C4-988FC8ED1125 20110103T215652Z
21:54 1) <not working>
21:54 bernie, ^^ that's all the uuid's and sno.s
21:56 bernie, did you know that pendrives often contain burnt out or not working chips.. If a manufacturer is making three different models say 2 GB, 4GB and 8 GB. all of the pendrives would be exactly the same, just that some of the chips in the 4 GB and 2GB ones would be purposefully disabled or not working
21:58 bernie, same is the case with processors, your intel dual core pussy and quad core extreme could possibly be the exact same chips, but for a few pins pulled up/down or some burnt fuse data :)
22:32 bernie wow, you want to unlock 6 laptops?
22:33 m_anish: for testing, it would be better if you could keep a few of them locked
22:33 m_anish: are you able to run signed builds already?
22:33 m_anish: i'll grant you all the permissions you need
22:33 m_anish: but first I need to make sure that you have a decently secure workstation
22:34 m_anish bernie, okay, how about unlocking 2? I have one unlocked at the beertarium
22:34 bernie m_anish: 6 & 5 ok?
22:34 m_anish bernie, signed builds? i think they already run dxo-1-py
22:35 bernie, yep
22:35 bernie m_anish: if the builds you make are signed, then you can load them without unlocking the laptops
22:36 m_anish bernie, they aren't signed, i can look up as to how to make signed builds
22:36 reubencaron_ <reubencaron_!~reubencar@weka.laptop.org> has joined #olpc-paraguay
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22:38 bernie m_anish: ok, first I'll send you the developer keysd
22:38 m_anish: do you have a gpg key?
22:39 m_anish bernie, i have gpg key on my other os, (on a different partition)
22:39 bernie m_anish: can you copy the keyring over?
22:39 m_anish bernie, lemme check
22:40 bernie m_anish: (as a tip, if you boot multiple linux distros on your laptop, you could share the home by putting it in a separate partition
22:40 m_anish: or by simply symlinking it from the other distro
22:40 m_anish bernie, good idea, but that's currently not the case
22:41 bernie m_anish: I used to run 3 distros on the same laptop, with the same exact settings ;-)
22:41 m_anish bernie, what if the the other different os'es are ubuntu and fedora, they might screw each other up
22:41 bernie m_anish: if they use similar versions of the desktop you use, there's no problem
22:42 m_anish: running older software with settings created by newer versions causes issues
22:42 m_anish: plus, there are a couple of differences, such as thunderbird using a different dot-file to store its profile...
22:42 m_anish: minor stuff. it mostly works
22:42 m_anish bernie, i remember uploading my gpg key to a keyserver
22:42 bernie, ok
22:43 bernie m_anish: yes, I can see _2_ keys for you on the keyservers
22:43 m_anish: (they sync with each other, did you know?)
22:43 m_anish bernie, i had no idea
22:44 bernie m_anish: but if you don't have the private key, I cannot use it to encrypt an email to you
22:44 m_anish: ok, I have a better idea: I'll send you the file on robbie :-)
22:44 m_anish bernie, wait a moment, let me searc
22:45 bernie m_anish:  scp robbie:~bernie/develop.sig /media/USBSTICK/security/
22:46 m_anish bernie, great!
22:47 bernie, i can't seem to access robbie :(
22:50 anish@anish:~$ ssh manish@190.104.152.113
22:50 Permission denied (publickey,gssapi-with-mic).
22:50 anish@anish:~$ ssh manish@robbie
22:50 ssh: Could not resolve hostname robbie: Name or service not known
22:52 bernie, okay , i found my private key
22:52 bernie, how should i send it?
22:53 bernie m_anish: the private key should not be sent to anyone
22:53 m_anish bernie, yeah, that's what i thought
22:53 :)
22:53 bernie m_anish: tell me the key ID (which is the last 8 digits of the fingerprint)
22:53 m_anish bernie, ok
22:54 bernie m_anish: gpg --list-key anish
22:54 m_anish: robbie.paraguayeduca.org prolly
22:58 m_anish bernie, damn, i need to log into my other acc...
22:58 wait a moment
22:59 m_anish is now known as m_anish_afk
23:00 bernie m_anish_afk: you could have mounted the other part to retrieve the file!
23:02 m_anish_ <m_anish_!~anishmang@mail.paraguayeduca.org> has joined #olpc-paraguay
23:02 m_anish_ bernie, pub   2048R/C70D9569 2010-04-13
23:02 uid                  Anish Mangal (Ubuntu Launchpad Key) <anishmangal2002@gmail.com>
23:02 sub   2048R/24BB25F7 2010-04-13
23:03 bernie,  is that what you were looking for
23:03 bernie,
23:03 ssh-rsa AAAAB3NzaC1yc2EAAAABIwAAAQEAsGEs1wx/C0R2wZAmcV/​cAQNEq4SPBYur91kHgHDUnBkIMemku2pw6TLopvwwnwWDhc​PsBso1/SVsXuSqzZSQVdqUxG3hD1iEStBmp7fFT9zlLH11Y​X22c5fDQpB1XL+QrhxQ0ZvtU7C2CTOyJsC9O/Lhi8BNGy9b​NHM/gbayQj/AvDuD84z+Hpa6aRmqI6nx4hzLJFrY6jw+2fP​hFkqMUxOBS4AJj0sZ6yxX51v6+b4qK5WQ4Iqsg7J7uua6IO​MJa5C2f0T+xRvCWn4Cf7KevXUW3WAjfaf0wX2VJFXvtyCJc​kChPCoAVrOQPf91tyu1aLl8e1m0+Kipb4jWFHPGOQ== anish@anish-laptop-devel
23:04 could you add this to my auth keys in my acc. on robbie, username is manish
23:07 bernie, leaving for home
23:09 bernie m_anish_: ok that's it
23:10 m_anish_: key added
23:10 m_anish_: you also have root on robbie, did you know?
23:11 m_anish_: ping me when you're at the kbd, I have further instructions for you :)
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23:31 m_anish_afk is now known as m_anish
23:32 m_anish bernie, at the keybd :)
23:33 bernie, able to log into robbie :),
23:34 meeting * alsroot nick cambiado a alsroot_away
23:49 bernie m_anish: ok, so you have the developer keys sitting in my home
23:49 m_anish: do you know how to use them?
23:49 m_anish bernie, yes, thanks!
23:50 bernie m_anish: ok, now I'd like to give you the deployment keys so you can sign your own builds
23:50 m_anish: but first I'd like to ask you a few security related questions to make sure the keys are stored in a safe place
23:51 m_anish bernie, ok
23:55 bernie m_anish: first, do you have a secure password for your account? or just 12346?
23:55 m_anish bernie, its pretty secure, has [a-z, A-Z, 0-9,] and a few special chars
23:56 bernie m_anish: k
23:56 m_anish: is your ssh key also password protected?
23:57 m_anish yes, that's a different password, but strong
23:57 bernie m_anish: on both fedora and ubuntu, you can get the ssh keys unlocked automatically on login if they have the same password of the account, so it's not incovenient
23:57 m_anish: ok, same for gpg, I guess?
23:57 m_anish bernie, i have different passwd, but i only have to inter it once
23:57 bernie, yep
23:58 bernie m_anish: so I'll send you an encrypted email with the deployment keys. when you receive it, unpack the file somewhere in your home, then delete the archive.
23:58 m_anish: you can keep the email, since it's encrypted anyway
23:59 m_anish: if your email client supports gpg, you'll be able to decrypt the email by typing the password of your gpg private key
23:59 m_anish bernie, okay

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