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| 06:35 | bernie | [scs]: fantastic application! lfaraone should approve it now... |
| 06:35 | [scs]: if he does not do it promptly, I'll push him a little bit | |
| 06:36 | [scs]: next step is probably getting her on irc | |
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| 12:29 | rgs__ | [scs]: ping. up and running? |
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| 13:55 | FJA | carlos:bs ds carlos puedo hacerte una pregunta? |
| 13:56 | car|0s | FJA, si, adelante |
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| 13:57 | car|0s | FJA, si no escribis exacto mi nombre, no me notifica y puede q no vea tu mensaje. Ahora vi de casualidad |
| 13:58 | FJA | car|0s: quiero instalar un moden 3G a mi XO como hago? |
| 13:59 | car|0s: el modelo es E176 | |
| 13:59 | car|0s | FJA, que proveedor? |
| 13:59 | FJA | car|0s: personal |
| 14:01 | car|0s | FJA, le tenes q introducir la info. usuario: personal password: internet. ap: internet |
| 14:01 | FJA, y el numero: *99# | |
| 14:01 | FJA | car|0s: ya hice eso pero no me aparece el moden |
| 14:02 | V: osea cuando le paretas el cuadradito... | |
| 14:02 | car|0s | FJA, llevale a la gente del cats entonces, te van a instalar unos rpm's |
| 14:02 | FJA | car|0s: osea cuando le apretas el cuadradito |
| 14:03 | car|0s: y yo soy unos de los fernandos jeje disculpame por no identificarme y nando salio ahora. | |
| 14:03 | car|0s | FJA, y no tenes los rpm a mano? |
| 14:04 | FJA, que build estas usando? | |
| 14:04 | FJA | car|0s: no como hago para tener eso? |
| 14:04 | car|0s:que es eso? | |
| 14:05 | car|0s | FJA, creo q tenes q usar la xo mas seguido |
| 14:05 | FJA, build es la version del software de sugar q tenes instalado | |
| 14:05 | FJA | car|0s: ah yap gracias el Os179py |
| 14:06 | car|0s | FJA, si, necesitas los rpm para q te funcione. no se cuales son. bernie se los dejo a fernando |
| 14:07 | FJA | car|0s: y bueno le voy a pedir a el entonces gracias por todo... |
| 14:07 | car|0s | FJA, oka |
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| 14:35 | aldoa | car|0s: ping |
| 14:36 | car|0s | aldoa, pong |
| 14:36 | aldoa | car|0s: buenas |
| 14:36 | car|0s | aldoa, q tal |
| 14:36 | aldoa | car|0s: porsia acaso no sabes como puedo correr sugar desde mi laptop |
| 14:37 | car|0s | aldoa, ubuntu? |
| 14:37 | aldoa | car|0s: desde ubuntu |
| 14:37 | car|0s | aldoa, en el centro de software pone sugar |
| 14:38 | aldoa | car|0s: ya le marque pero no me abilitaç |
| 14:39 | car|0s | aldoa, sudo apt-get install sugar |
| 14:40 | aldoa | car|0s: me dice que ya esta instalado |
| 14:41 | car|0s | aldoa, reinicia tu escritorio |
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| 15:42 | bernie | car|0s: I can't remember where the 3g rpms are... fgonzales might have them |
| 15:42 | car|0s: but he could also use os180py... it's the same of os179py with the 3g stuff included | |
| 15:44 | car|0s | bernie, ok. Its just that we cannot give the new version just yet |
| 15:44 | bernie, they do have the rpm | |
| 16:04 | bernie | car|0s: os180py is not the new version |
| 16:05 | car|0s: it's the old version with the rpms preinstalled | |
| 16:05 | car|0s: there's no other difference (that I know of) | |
| 16:22 | car|0s | bernie, i know. it's not me the one that have to understand. its the education team |
| 16:25 | bernie | car|0s: weren't they given lessons of sanity by you and tch? |
| 16:26 | car|0s: maybe they could learn to diff the packages.txt file to ensure i'm telling them the truth? | |
| 16:26 | car|0s | bernie, hahaha |
| 16:26 | bernie, u r joking, right? | |
| 16:27 | bernie | car|0s: yes :-) |
| 16:27 | car|0s: yes :-( | |
| 16:27 | car|0s | bernie, still in maputo? |
| 16:28 | bernie | car|0s: perhaps more easily, they could grasp the concept that changing the version number is something we do intentionally to distinguish easily one version from the other, not to confuse users. |
| 16:29 | car|0s: in the beginning I started writing nice end-user release notes for each release... in spanish even. | |
| 16:29 | car|0s | bernie, i remenber those |
| 16:30 | bernie | car|0s: then I realized it was wasted effort because nobody seemed to be reading them. |
| 16:30 | car|0s | bernie, sad but true |
| 16:31 | bernie | car|0s: perhaps *now* some of them have achieved enough base computer culture to understand them. 6 months ago they were freshly hired. |
| 16:32 | car|0s: anyway, it's not like people will learn these things faster by acting conservative with software updates. | |
| 16:32 | car|0s | bernie, i think it will be still a while longer before that happens |
| 16:33 | bernie, people here tend to do things by memory. clic here, then this and that. if u change a single thing, they get lost | |
| 16:33 | bernie | car|0s: yeah... computer education teaches people think logically. but this generation may not be recoverable. |
| 16:34 | car|0s: the monkey training thing... | |
| 16:34 | car|0s | bernie, its a cultural thing. the whole education system in py its like that |
| 16:34 | bernie | car|0s: but this is not a case of wanting to limit change. there's exactly the same amount of change between os179py + 3 rpms and os180py. it's just illogical thinking :-) |
| 16:35 | car|0s: I made them 2 days apart | |
| 16:35 | car|0s | bernie, maybe 2 hours apart? |
| 16:35 | u were spinning so much builds | |
| 16:39 | bernie | car|0s: haha yeah |
| 16:39 | car|0s: I miss that time | |
| 16:39 | car|0s: now everything is so stable and quiet, the fun is over | |
| 16:39 | car|0s | bernie, did u get ur passport back? |
| 16:39 | bernie | car|0s: yes. don't ask me how. |
| 16:39 | car|0s | bernie, selling ur body? |
| 16:41 | bernie | d'oh |
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