| Time |
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| 19:22 |
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sugaroid <sugaroid!~sugaroid jita.sugarlabs.org> has joined #olpc-paraguay |
| 20:25 |
bernie |
[scs]: are we ok with the meetbot doing permanent logging of the channel? (i.e. even when there's no meeting going on) |
| 20:32 |
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reubencaron: we're now hosting it on f12 |
| 20:33 |
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reubencaron: it == inventario |
| 20:33 |
reubencaron |
bernie: thanks |
| 20:33 |
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i just managed to dl f13 |
| 20:33 |
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so hopefully that will work |
| 20:33 |
bernie |
reubencaron: it's a rails app, hopefully it works well on any recent distro |
| 20:34 |
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reubencaron: if you want I could rebuild the rpm for f13, but I doubt it will be necessary |
| 20:34 |
reubencaron |
bernie: thanks! im working on it now i'll let you know soon |
| 20:37 |
bernie |
reubencaron: btw, did you get my less-than-ideal plans for MZ? |
| 20:38 |
rgs___ |
reubencaron: hola |
| 20:38 |
reubencaron |
bernie: I did and I really appreciate it. I've been giving it a lot of thought today and you are right things are less then ideal but I think given the scenario you are making the best of it |
| 20:38 |
rgs___ |
bernie: we are? you updated amnesia to f12? |
| 20:38 |
reubencaron |
one question, you're dextrose builds; are the olpc-update friendly? |
| 20:40 |
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your* |
| 20:42 |
bernie |
reubencaron: yes. |
| 20:42 |
reubencaron |
bernie: okay, good; I assumed that was the case but wanted to be sure |
| 20:44 |
bernie |
reubencaron: actually, on the international builds (the "bulk" builds) there's no olpc-update. I can re-enable it in no time |
| 20:44 |
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reubencaron: the reason why it's disabled is that there's no oats server and therefore no server to ping for updates |
| 20:45 |
reubencaron |
bernie: ah yes, i see the problem |
| 20:45 |
bernie |
reubencaron: olpc-update has a default... can't remember the exact hostname but it was on laptop.org |
| 20:45 |
reubencaron |
yes you're right |
| 20:46 |
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bernie: do you think it would make sense to add the update server as a control panel item? |
| 20:47 |
bernie |
reubencaron: yes, perhaps |
| 20:47 |
reubencaron |
bernie: something to think about |
| 20:47 |
bernie |
reubencaron: I've been thinking about separating the jabber server from the schoolserver setting |
| 20:47 |
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reubencaron: if we make it too much configurable people will get confused, though |
| 20:47 |
rgs___ |
bernie: the schoolserver setting == backup server? |
| 20:47 |
bernie |
rgs___: yes |
| 20:47 |
reubencaron |
rgs___: hola |
| 20:48 |
bernie |
rgs___: and jabber could be distinct |
| 20:48 |
rgs___ |
bernie: actually, we have many services.. and i agree that decoupling them all would cause confusion |
| 20:48 |
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bernie: collaboration, backups, activation, updates |
| 20:48 |
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you name it |
| 20:48 |
bernie |
rgs___: for jabber, we could use the SVC records in the dns to point sugar at a different machine |
| 20:48 |
rgs___ |
bernie: SVC? |
| 20:49 |
bernie |
rgs___: look at the sugarlabs.org domain for an example |
| 20:49 |
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rgs___: jabber (and many other protocols) use these special records to redirect clients to different machines |
| 20:49 |
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rgs___: it's part of the zeroconf zoo of protocols |
| 20:51 |
rgs___ |
bernie: but its a txt record right? |
| 20:51 |
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bernie: SVC sounds out of context (at least for me) on DNS context |
| 20:51 |
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looks at sugarlabs.org.zone |
| 20:52 |
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bernie: not sure what i am looking for.. what is the record type and what should it say? |
| 20:53 |
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bernie: you meant SRV? |
| 20:54 |
reubencaron |
rgs___: yes i think he mean't SRV |
| 20:54 |
rgs___ |
for all the creatures on RMS' beard, what is this: |
| 20:54 |
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_jabber._tcp SRV 5 0 5269 sunjammer |
| 20:54 |
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people really enjoy abusing DNS |
| 20:54 |
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bernie: ^ |
| 20:54 |
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reubencaron: never heard of that record type, what is it for? |
| 20:54 |
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googles for it |
| 20:55 |
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oh, a service record.. never heard of it |
| 20:55 |
reubencaron |
rgs___: from what i understand it looks up specific protocols |
| 20:55 |
rgs___ |
reubencaron: nice, didn't know ZeroConf relied that heavily on DNS |
| 20:55 |
reubencaron |
so if you are connecting to an SIP of XMPP protocol |
| 20:56 |
rgs___ |
reubencaron: i thought they just broadcasted messages like crazy.. i thought the whole point was to not depend on infrastructure.. querying dns for services looks like going the opposite way |
| 20:56 |
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bernie: i'd love to hear your views on ZeroConf when you have time and spirit for ranting :) |
| 20:58 |
reubencaron |
rgs___: you're right -- i'd be up for hearing that too |
| 21:04 |
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rgs___: do you know where I can set the default language to EN? |
| 21:04 |
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So everytime I open the page I do not have to select EN from the pull down? |
| 21:08 |
rgs___ |
reubencaron: good question.. there is a table that holds the default value, let me look at it |
| 21:13 |
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reubencaron: anyways, you'd have to edit inventario/app/controllers/application_controller.rb |
| 21:13 |
reubencaron |
rgs___: I think I found it under List Default Values |
| 21:13 |
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in the gui |
| 21:13 |
rgs___ |
reubencaron: oh, cool |
| 21:13 |
reubencaron |
yeah (and no i'm not familar with hacking RoR apps) |
| 21:13 |
rgs___ |
reubencaron: you are right.. now that i look at the code more closely, there is a lookup to get the default lang |
| 21:14 |
reubencaron |
but I'm guessing I soon will be |
| 21:14 |
rgs___ |
reubencaron: so did you find a key that corresponds to default lang? |
| 21:22 |
reubencaron |
bernie: fyi, i just got it up an running with f13 |
| 21:22 |
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rgs___: i found the key "lang" |
| 21:22 |
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and changed it from es to en |
| 21:22 |
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rralcala <rralcala!rralcala190.128.129.146> has joined #olpc-paraguay |
| 21:23 |
rgs___ |
rralcala: ping. que grande , llegaste! |
| 21:23 |
bernie |
rgs___: yes, SRV not SVC |
| 21:23 |
rgs___ |
bernie: remember Roberto, he is here (rralcala) |
| 21:24 |
bernie |
rgs___: I've seen the SVC thing used by microsoft for domain controllers |
| 21:24 |
rralcala |
Hola |
| 21:24 |
bernie |
rralcala: hola! |
| 21:24 |
rgs___ |
bernie: any comments on future ways to extend DNS for ZeroConf and other similar schemes? |
| 21:24 |
bernie |
rgs___: but in fact it predates microsoft... it was used in kerberos as well |
| 21:24 |
rgs___ |
reubencaron: rralcala is Roberto, PyEducaś new CTO |
| 21:25 |
bernie |
rgs___: zeroconf already uses dns. it uses multicast dns |
| 21:25 |
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rgs___: zeroconf is actually a very reasonable reinterpretation of existing protocols to decentralize network infrastructure |
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| 22:04 |
bernie |
rralcala: if you send me your ssh key(s) I'll install them asap |
| 22:04 |
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rralcala: (I got the good news :-) |
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| 22:20 |
rralcala |
Hi Bernie, Ok |
| 22:21 |
rgs___ |
rralcala: berniesugarlabs.org |
| 22:21 |
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bernie: I have his key, I'll fwd it to you |
| 22:21 |
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rralcala: ^ |
| 22:21 |
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bernie: sent. |
| 22:22 |
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bernie: eventually, rralcala might need access to sunjammer et al |
| 22:22 |
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bernie: initially zatoichi, which I'll go ahead and add now |
| 22:23 |
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bernie: i see you've added jsaldivar to zatoichi |
| 22:23 |
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bernie: are they moving limesurvey (encuestas.paraguayeduca.org) to zatoichi? |
| 22:23 |
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bernie: that web app is moved montly.. will they ever settle on if they want it on a national or international server? |
| 22:24 |
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bernie: was adduser the preferred way? I am already creating it.. |
| 22:25 |
bernie |
rgs___: I have no idea whether they want to move it or not |
| 22:26 |
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rgs___: on ubuntu I mostly use adduser, on fedora useradd |
| 22:26 |
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rgs___: useradd is available on both and works well on both, but syntax is harder to remember |
| 22:26 |
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rralcala: for a sunjammer account, please follow this procedure: http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/S[…]l_account_request |
| 22:27 |
rgs___ |
rralcala: ssh -C rralcalazatoichi.paraguayeduca.org |
| 22:27 |
bernie |
rralcala: sunjammer is our shell account box |
| 22:28 |
rgs___ |
bernie: to avoid overwhelming him.. i think a shell account in zatoichi will be good enoguh for now |
| 22:28 |
bernie |
rgs___: k |
| 22:29 |
rgs___ |
i am off to sleep, talk to you guys tomorrow! |
| 22:31 |
bernie |
rgs___: http://translate.flossmanuals.[…]r_es/Introduction |
| 22:31 |
rralcala |
rgs___: ssh worked, Thank you |
| 22:32 |
bernie |
rgs___: they translated the activities manual in espanol! |