Time |
Nick |
Message |
16:03 |
hhardy |
yes I will at least try to get it set up and working there but we need a person to actively maintain that one |
16:04 |
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and I can't promise when it will be done |
16:04 |
dogi |
#topic agenda |
16:04 |
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* meeting: fixing and migration plans |
16:05 |
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* bigsister: new VM the 2nd or more |
16:05 |
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* wiki/testwiki: security research |
16:06 |
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adric? to |
16:06 |
adric |
Hmm ? |
16:06 |
dogi |
delete key does not respond sorry for all the mistyping |
16:07 |
|
adric do u want a new devel rt? |
16:07 |
adric |
is trying to get an f11-xo1 build server up. |
16:07 |
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sighs. |
16:07 |
dogi |
cool |
16:07 |
adric |
I can try and help guide someone else to push the RT upgrade on henry's old plan, but I don't have any more time for it myself right now. |
16:08 |
dogi |
* f11-xo1 build server |
16:08 |
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ok |
16:08 |
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* new rt vm |
16:08 |
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who wants to be first? |
16:08 |
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anything i forgot? |
16:09 |
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* documentation on vig (or internalwiki) |
16:09 |
hhardy |
I'll take bigsister question if nobody else wants to start |
16:09 |
dogi |
sure |
16:09 |
|
#topic bigsister |
16:10 |
hhardy |
Bottom line is I don't think a quality volunteer sysadmin effort is sustainable without a full time paid sysadmin |
16:10 |
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Plus I am concentrating on 1 personal health issues |
16:10 |
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2 find a job |
16:10 |
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3 volunteer sysadmin stuff at fsf |
16:11 |
dogi |
#action dogi set up next bigsis vm on treehouse |
16:11 |
|
4? |
16:11 |
hhardy |
so going forward my role will be answering questions and offering advice, and a degree of facilitating contacts between the community and the core team |
16:11 |
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I don't forsee taking an active role in any sysadmin stuff unless it is an absolute emergency and chuck or ed asks for my help directly |
16:12 |
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so I'll help set up new bigsister vm but then it needs to be handed off to someone to take day to day responsibility for maintaining it |
16:12 |
dogi |
+1 :) |
16:13 |
hhardy |
likewise I'll continue to maintain the legacy bigsister on thinker but dont anticipate setting up much or any new stuff there |
16:13 |
dogi |
#top |
16:13 |
hhardy |
It is very unfortunate that Ed is not coming to these meetings |
16:13 |
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suggest we find a time when he can attend |
16:14 |
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any questions/comments? |
16:14 |
dogi |
#action hhardy set up bigsis |
16:15 |
hhardy |
and as I said I cant guarentee when the new vm will be done it isnt on the top of my list of priorities at this point |
16:15 |
adric |
Ed just mailed the list with his aologies and a plea for server and vm documentation. |
16:15 |
hhardy |
I saw that |
16:15 |
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I am not going to comment further |
16:16 |
dogi |
thank you anyway and feel always welcome here ::) |
16:16 |
hhardy |
thank you and I do Chuck has also made that clear |
16:16 |
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its a matter of time and money and priorities |
16:17 |
dogi |
who is next? |
16:17 |
FGrose |
I'll go |
16:17 |
dogi |
suere |
16:17 |
|
-e |
16:17 |
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#topic wiki security research |
16:18 |
FGrose |
http://vig.laptop.org/wiki/ind[…]php/Wiki_security has meager information that I've found. Will keep looking and testing those items on testwiki |
16:18 |
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Then will begin to test installing extensions on testwiki |
16:20 |
dogi |
ok that sounds great |
16:21 |
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#action FGrose extension test ontestwiki |
16:21 |
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and security tests |
16:21 |
adric |
Sounds fun :) |
16:21 |
dogi |
question: when do we want to copy wiki.l.o? |
16:22 |
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and want do we need to prepare for that? |
16:22 |
FGrose |
after testing security and extension installations at minimum. Timing??? |
16:22 |
dogi |
and how does that interfer with ed s plan of a mysql database server |
16:23 |
|
hdspace? |
16:23 |
FGrose |
Ed acts first, assuming he understands space requirements |
16:24 |
dogi |
i like to have an active copy of this wiki ... |
16:24 |
FGrose |
w.l.o? |
16:24 |
dogi |
but ja let s discuss that next time/week? |
16:25 |
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i have a copy of www.l.o already ... pinguin.laptop.org which is running on owl |
16:25 |
FGrose |
OK, will prepare more plans in http://vig.laptop.org/wiki/ind[…]ecipe:migratewiki |
16:25 |
dogi |
cool thx FGrose |
16:26 |
|
which extentions to you plan to test? |
16:27 |
FGrose |
those on w.l.o... any suggestions on where to start? |
16:27 |
dogi |
hmm |
16:28 |
|
i would start by asking sj laptop.org or testing first the easy ones |
16:29 |
FGrose |
OK. Also need to know about the backup procedure. |
16:29 |
dogi |
the proplem there is more that most extension works fine in a non user environment' |
16:29 |
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but then uner streess they crash or are really slow |
16:30 |
|
+d -e |
16:30 |
sverma |
do we have anything to stress test the environment? |
16:30 |
FGrose |
I'll try to include these issues in the migratewiki plan and get sj's comments and others |
16:31 |
dogi |
sverma: erik laptop.org had some scripts creating a lot of traffic ... that worked for html |
16:31 |
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but for wiki ... |
16:32 |
FGrose |
sverma: I'm not aware about tools for that, but will look around and ask in plans |
16:33 |
dogi |
a t least we could test the reading skills/abilities about wiki with some extensions |
16:33 |
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so who is next? |
16:33 |
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#topic meeting fix and migrationplans |
16:34 |
sverma-postcrash |
sorry, X crashed on my laptop |
16:35 |
dogi |
like i tought it was only a mibbit.com problem with meeting |
16:35 |
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in other words thats why today i m using irssi :) |
16:36 |
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meeting was offline since friday :( |
16:36 |
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which i fixed today ... |
16:36 |
sverma-postcrash |
so, can we use something like selenium to stress test new builds? |
16:37 |
dogi |
selenium? |
16:37 |
sverma-postcrash |
http://seleniumhq.org/ |
16:37 |
dogi |
FGrose: ? |
16:37 |
FGrose |
looking |
16:38 |
dogi |
too :) |
16:38 |
sverma-postcrash |
we use it to stress test Moodle on campus |
16:38 |
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basically any web app i suppose |
16:39 |
dogi |
thx sverma-postcrash |
16:39 |
sverma-postcrash |
we also use JMeter, but I don't know much about it personally... |
16:40 |
|
http://jakarta.apache.org/jmeter/ |
16:40 |
FGrose |
I think we have to have a specific problem before we design a test. Otherwise, we use well-tested Mediawiki extensions |
16:41 |
dogi |
+1 FGrose |
16:41 |
sverma-postcrash |
+1 |
16:41 |
|
I was thinking of problematic or iffy extensions |
16:41 |
dogi |
the map extension for example |
16:41 |
FGrose |
Right. we could uninstall suspected ones... |
16:42 |
|
which map? imagemap? |
16:42 |
|
Ok googlemaps, I remember |
16:42 |
dogi |
but u rememberd me there was a problem with imagemap too |
16:43 |
|
... this was fixed by cjb laptop,org |
16:43 |
FGrose |
not familiar with the imagemap problem. |
16:44 |
dogi |
but i think we will find out by doing ... |
16:44 |
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#action dogi migrate meeting to treehouse |
16:44 |
|
#topic treehouse |
16:45 |
FGrose |
I don't have access to the w.l.o server now, so could you copy LocalSettings.php to my vig home? |
16:45 |
dogi |
#actiion |
16:45 |
|
Action grrr |
16:45 |
adric |
selenium (etc) would allow us to script and automate web usage tasks for testing. it's a cool package. |
16:45 |
dogi |
#action dogi give FGrose access to pedal |
16:46 |
|
so back treehouse |
16:47 |
|
is a server where _bernie walter and me have access |
16:47 |
|
and where i will set up most of the devel VM |
16:47 |
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it has 64Gb of ram |
16:47 |
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2 quadcore cpu from amd |
16:48 |
|
and 3 tb of harddrive |
16:49 |
|
and the plan is to have there asterisk (_bernoie) |
16:49 |
|
bigsis (hhardy) |
16:49 |
|
meeting (dogi) |
16:50 |
|
which are all little devel VM |
16:50 |
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adric: rt? do u want a VM there too? |
16:52 |
|
hmm |
16:52 |
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who wants to be next? |
16:52 |
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ping _bernie |
16:53 |
|
adric: ? |
16:54 |
|
i wanted to hear something about ur F11forXO1 build machine ... |
16:56 |
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i know only that the vm is running on sinistra |
16:56 |
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dogi sinistra:~$ virsh list |
16:56 |
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Connecting to uri: qemu:///system |
16:56 |
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Id Name State |
16:56 |
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16:56 |
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1 backup running |
16:56 |
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2 meeting running |
16:56 |
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3 projectdb running |
16:57 |
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4 maps running |
16:57 |
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5 onedb running |
16:57 |
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6 olpcorps running |
16:57 |
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7 base904 running |
16:57 |
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8 idea running |
16:57 |
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9 rt2 running |
16:57 |
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10 vig running |
16:57 |
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11 one running |
16:57 |
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16 f11-on-xo-1 running |
16:57 |
|
hi deep |
16:57 |
deep |
dogi, hi |
16:57 |
dogi |
#topic welcome deep |
16:58 |
|
backlog http://meeting.laptop.org/olpc[…]0090728_1603.html |
16:59 |
|
i m Stefan Unterhauser volunteer sysadmin and who are you? :P |
17:00 |
deep |
dogi, are you asking form me :) |
17:00 |
dogi |
yupp |
17:01 |
|
do I know u already ... face to face? |
17:01 |
deep |
dogi, I am Deependra Ariyadewa and support guy |
17:02 |
dogi |
:) |
17:02 |
deep |
dogi, I am from Sri Lanka OLPC volunteer group |
17:03 |
dogi |
i think i never asked u befor ... |
17:03 |
deep |
it is ok |
17:03 |
dogi |
will join |
17:03 |
|
ups |
17:03 |
|
will you join our group? |
17:04 |
deep |
I like to .. |
17:04 |
dogi |
or is there something we can do for you? |
17:05 |
|
sure u are welcome |
17:05 |
deep |
dogi, I am from University of Colombo Sri Lanka. We handle the OLPC sri lanka deployment technical part |
17:06 |
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we got 10 OLPCs and we have a small OLPC interest group .. |
17:06 |
dogi |
i think the best is u read some of our meetings and then tell me what u want to do ... |
17:07 |
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or send me ur CV and then i can tell u where we could use ur skills |
17:07 |
deep |
I am a RHCE and CISSP |
17:07 |
dogi |
CISSP? |
17:08 |
deep |
and work as the assistant network manager in University of colombo school of computing |
17:09 |
dogi |
it looks like u are perfect for us ... |
17:09 |
deep |
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/C[…]rity_Professional |
17:09 |
adric |
sorry was, other meetings, work. F11 xo1 build server to be is currently trying to finish its first build, as per the wiki instructions |
17:10 |
dogi |
hi adric |
17:10 |
FGrose |
deep: please add to http://vig.laptop.org/wiki/ind[…]php/Wiki_security |
17:10 |
dogi |
#topic f11onXO1 build server |
17:11 |
|
can u post the wiki link there adric ? |
17:11 |
deep |
ok |
17:12 |
adric |
Yes, of course, sorry. Near here: http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Talk[…]O-1#Work_starting |
17:12 |
dogi |
deep: for example we search a person which set up an antiwikispambot and /or pywikibot |
17:13 |
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#endmeeting |
14:21 |
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meeting does not work with mibbit.com |
14:21 |
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#endmeeting |