Time |
Nick |
Message |
16:08 |
dogi |
3lets do that later |
16:08 |
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3topic agenda |
16:08 |
hhardy |
#topic agenda |
16:08 |
dogi |
3* meeting issues ... |
16:09 |
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3* testwiki/vig |
16:09 |
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3* bigsister |
16:09 |
ramoonas |
bigsister? |
16:09 |
dogi |
3* ramoonas |
16:10 |
|
3do we have special things to discuss |
16:10 |
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3??? |
16:10 |
hhardy |
you will take over as secretary dogi, if no objection? |
16:10 |
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I mean formally not for purpose of this mtng |
16:10 |
dogi |
3sure |
16:11 |
hhardy |
I propose dogi as the new IG secretary |
16:11 |
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*VIG |
16:11 |
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all in favor |
16:11 |
|
aye |
16:11 |
ramoonas |
aye |
16:11 |
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:) |
16:11 |
hhardy |
+1 dogi |
16:11 |
FGrose |
go |
16:11 |
hhardy |
opposed? |
16:12 |
|
ok grats dogi |
16:12 |
dogi |
3thx hhardy ramoonas FGrose :) |
16:12 |
hhardy |
news item is I am volunteeering 4 days a week at free sw foundation now |
16:12 |
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so I am less available for olpc |
16:12 |
ramoonas |
have fun :) |
16:12 |
hhardy |
I am there now |
16:12 |
dogi |
3ramoonas: http://www.bigsister.ch/ |
16:13 |
ramoonas |
dogi: how does it relay to olpc? |
16:13 |
dogi |
3* one/group migration |
16:13 |
hhardy |
thinker.laptop.org/bigsis |
16:13 |
dogi |
3ramoonas: http://thinker.laptop.org/bigsis/ |
16:14 |
ramoonas |
these are servers right? |
16:14 |
dogi |
3hi mchua |
16:14 |
mchua |
hey dogi. |
16:15 |
|
in a meeting right now, I'll be slow to respond. |
16:15 |
hhardy |
hey mchua are you in bos? |
16:15 |
dogi |
3most ... hhardy ? are there cnames too? |
16:15 |
hhardy |
danny says hi btw |
16:15 |
dogi |
3hi danny |
16:16 |
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3so lets go to * meeting |
16:16 |
hhardy |
cnames for what? bigsister? |
16:17 |
dogi |
3no if there are server which cause of cnames are double listed ... |
16:17 |
hhardy |
dont understand question |
16:17 |
mchua |
I'm in Raleigh. |
16:17 |
dogi |
3hhardy: ups |
16:18 |
|
3is every line in the table of bigsis a server |
16:18 |
hhardy |
it coresponds to ip addresses |
16:19 |
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those are user defined labels that are displayed |
16:19 |
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they are defined in uxmon-net |
16:19 |
dogi |
3jupp i remember :) |
16:19 |
hhardy |
the purplization is probably because there are redundant bs processes running |
16:19 |
|
looking now |
16:20 |
dogi |
3topic meeting |
16:20 |
hhardy |
#topic meeting |
16:21 |
dogi |
3#action dogi fix meeting that everybody can start a meeting again |
16:21 |
|
3story behind this issue |
16:21 |
hhardy |
restarted manually |
16:22 |
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#action dogi fix meeting |
16:22 |
dogi |
3was in washington and ed/cjb/ricchard move meeting from kuku to sinistra |
16:23 |
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3... same problem FGrose with testwiki |
16:23 |
hhardy |
I read that wiki security patches will no longer be applied?? |
16:24 |
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mchua: I am volunteering 4 days a week at fsf, am there now |
16:24 |
dogi |
3other thing i set up a meeting devel VM so that i can develop next generation meeting |
16:24 |
FGrose |
hhardy: source for that security news... |
16:24 |
hhardy |
per an email from ed |
16:24 |
dogi |
3topic testwiki |
16:24 |
hhardy |
unless I missed a follow-up |
16:25 |
FGrose |
http://vig.laptop.org/wiki/ind[…]/Machine:testwiki shows that I did the test migration of VIG.laptop.org |
16:26 |
hhardy |
july 13 to bernie and vig: please let's |
16:26 |
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not undertake any system upgrades for a bit until we get things in a |
16:26 |
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more maintainable state. |
16:27 |
FGrose |
Notice http://testwiki.laptop.org/wik[…]dex.php/Main_Page gives a familiar page from vig wiki |
16:27 |
hhardy |
per edmcnierney |
16:27 |
dogi |
3yeah ed is consolidating my work ... so he has a lot to do ... |
16:27 |
|
3:P |
16:28 |
hhardy |
he didn't say we wont do tem ever but rather for now we should "discuss" "high-priority updates" |
16:28 |
dogi |
3testwiki.laptop.org looks great FGrose :) |
16:29 |
|
3hhardy: topic testwiki/vig/wiki |
16:29 |
hhardy |
#topic testwiki/vig/wiki |
16:29 |
dogi |
3so FGrose what is the next step? |
16:30 |
FGrose |
I want to know more about security best practices, http://vig.laptop.org/wiki/ind[…]php/Wiki_security |
16:30 |
dogi |
3should we try to set up a copy of teamwiki and.or wiki.l.o |
16:31 |
|
3ok that looks interresting too |
16:31 |
FGrose |
Not yet, until I understand better the security |
16:31 |
dogi |
3:) |
16:32 |
|
3then that is ur action item |
16:32 |
FGrose |
Please post suggested reference on that page |
16:32 |
hhardy |
#action FGrose to understand beeter the wiki security |
16:32 |
FGrose |
OK, I will check for more sources |
16:33 |
dogi |
3:) |
16:33 |
ramoonas |
FGrose: i suppose we could scan wiki server with nessus |
16:34 |
|
i have it installed in one of my servers |
16:34 |
dogi |
3topic ramoonas research |
16:34 |
FGrose |
Is that a testing tool? |
16:34 |
hhardy |
#topic ramoonas research |
16:34 |
ramoonas |
it is a vulnerability scanner which also includes nikto web scanner |
16:35 |
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i use it all the time to check my servers for possible weaknesses |
16:35 |
hhardy |
it is a port scanner similar to but much nicer than nmap nessus.org free and nonfree forks |
16:35 |
ramoonas |
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nessus |
16:35 |
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sorry: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nessus_(software) |
16:35 |
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:) |
16:35 |
FGrose |
OK thanks, |
16:35 |
ramoonas |
apparantly nessus was also a centaur :) |
16:35 |
hhardy |
do not do this w/o written ok from edmcnierney I wuld suggest |
16:36 |
|
the MIT folks will see it and want to know whats up |
16:36 |
dogi |
3hmm |
16:36 |
|
3hhardy: good point |
16:36 |
hhardy |
afk minute |
16:36 |
FGrose |
hhardy: MIT have a security wiki? |
16:37 |
dogi |
3but if we set up a nessus in a VM in 1CC |
16:37 |
|
3we shouldn t have problems with MIT |
16:37 |
ramoonas |
or you can ask them to ignore scans from my ip |
16:37 |
|
but if you have resources for another vm i think it is twice as good |
16:37 |
|
:) |
16:38 |
|
i could help you set it up |
16:38 |
|
sorry i lag a bit |
16:38 |
hhardy |
back |
16:39 |
dogi |
3or even better vig.laptop.org is a good place to set up a nessus instance ... FGrose what do u think? |
16:39 |
|
3so u can test testwiki from vig .... |
16:39 |
hhardy |
#link http://ist.mit.edu/security |
16:40 |
dogi |
3thx hhardy |
16:40 |
hhardy |
yw |
16:40 |
ramoonas |
dogi: nessus is a server vulnerability scanner. To test only testwiki i recommend nikto |
16:40 |
FGrose |
Will consider that. It would be convenient, but want to follow up with the link hhardy just listed |
16:40 |
ramoonas |
it is also less painfull to set up |
16:40 |
hhardy |
the biggest persistent prob w/ wiki security is defacement I'd say |
16:41 |
|
nessus isn't going to address that really |
16:41 |
dogi |
3good point hhardy |
16:41 |
FGrose |
Yes. I'm just starting with basics though. |
16:42 |
dogi |
3i did a little research in mediawiki antispam bot |
16:42 |
hhardy |
also we at olpc do not talk directly to ist we shuld go through will at necsys or we will get yelled at |
16:42 |
|
so to speak |
16:42 |
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and it should go through cjb or ed |
16:43 |
FGrose |
OK, just looking for documentation now |
16:43 |
dogi |
3i think the only way to protect a wiki is with human or robot power |
16:43 |
hhardy |
dogi -> cjb -> ed -> will -> ist |
16:44 |
|
generally agree |
16:44 |
dogi |
3action dogi asks necsys about nessus policy ... |
16:45 |
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3but i want to speak more about ramoonas task from the last week |
16:45 |
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3did u read the old meetings |
16:46 |
hhardy |
me, did not read last week |
16:46 |
dogi |
3hhardy: lol :) |
16:46 |
|
3i was asking ramoonas ... |
16:46 |
hhardy |
heh oh |
16:47 |
ramoonas |
dogi: sorry, i just go back from vacation and had a little havoc at my workplace |
16:47 |
dogi |
3did u find something u liked we maybe need ... |
16:47 |
|
3ok |
16:47 |
hhardy |
...and let slip the little dogs of war :) |
16:47 |
ramoonas |
i am leaving for another week this friday so i havent started to look at it thoroughly |
16:47 |
dogi |
3what do u think about an wiki antispam bot? |
16:48 |
ramoonas |
dogi: are you asking me? |
16:48 |
dogi |
3yes |
16:48 |
ramoonas |
sorry i have no experience with wiki's let alone their bots |
16:49 |
dogi |
3hmmm |
16:50 |
hhardy |
(bigsis is mostly depurplized after restart) |
16:50 |
dogi |
3hhardy: :) |
16:50 |
hhardy |
ask sj about antispam robots |
16:51 |
ramoonas |
dogi: i am just looking at your work, i might be able to participate more after summer brake, or in the middle of next month |
16:51 |
dogi |
3sj for example wanted to have a pywikibot which edits the new users personal page automaticaly |
16:51 |
ramoonas |
sorry though |
16:52 |
dogi |
3right now he does that per hand |
16:52 |
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3other question ramoonas |
16:52 |
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3what is ur expertise? |
16:53 |
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3so i can think about what could be needed in vig |
16:53 |
ramoonas |
i can send you my cv if you want |
16:53 |
dogi |
3I = we (VIG) |
16:53 |
ramoonas |
yes i understand that :) |
16:54 |
dogi |
3ok |
16:54 |
ramoonas |
what is your email? |
16:54 |
dogi |
3so we will discuss this point after ur holiday |
16:54 |
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3dogi laptop.org |
16:54 |
ramoonas |
ok |
16:55 |
hhardy |
#link http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Bots |
16:55 |
dogi |
3likes to have a nessus user in VIg |
16:55 |
|
3ping _bernie |
16:56 |
|
3topic bigsis |
16:56 |
hhardy |
#topic #bigsister |
16:56 |
|
#topic bigsister |
16:57 |
|
I have an action item to reinitialize the db and install rrdtool on thinker which I have not done yet |
16:57 |
dogi |
3i will send you the login info hhardy again |
16:57 |
hhardy |
ty |
16:57 |
dogi |
3is that ok? |
16:57 |
hhardy |
yes |
16:59 |
|
can I give one general note? |
16:59 |
dogi |
3then ur task is to set up and document the bigsis VM |
16:59 |
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3i think we are done ... |
16:59 |
|
3topic new business |
16:59 |
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3or other |
16:59 |
|
3sure |
17:00 |
hhardy |
http://linux.slashdot.org/stor[…]-Mistake?from=rss |
17:00 |
|
apparently we should be using "vanilla linux" |
17:00 |
ramoonas |
vanilla? never heard of it |
17:00 |
|
is it good? |
17:01 |
|
never mind, found it |
17:01 |
dogi |
3lol |
17:02 |
|
3likes sugar anyway :P |
17:02 |
|
3vanilla or not |
17:02 |
hhardy |
yes vanilla is excellent, its a type of orchid :) |
17:03 |
dogi |
3endmeeting |
17:03 |
hhardy |
#endmeeting |
16:05 |
dogi |
3hui |
16:05 |
ramoonas |
i think bot does not like you dogi :) |
16:06 |
dogi |
3:( |
16:06 |
|
3:P |
16:06 |
FGrose |
why didn't it take dogi's command? |
16:06 |
ramoonas |
happens from time to time :D |
16:06 |
hhardy |
you are not flagged as chan admin that might be why? |
16:06 |
dogi |
3mom |
16:07 |
|
3can u end meeting hhardy |
16:07 |
hhardy |
#endmeeting |