Time |
Nick |
Message |
16:03 |
dogi |
sure JasonWoof |
16:03 |
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#topic Agenda |
16:04 |
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* backup: new VM for streaming to a robot tape solution |
16:04 |
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* pinguin: new www |
16:04 |
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* meeting: new structure and meeting.sugarlabs.org |
16:04 |
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* vig and wiki (testwiki): migration plan |
16:04 |
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* idea: help promote this idea function |
16:04 |
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* rt: migration plan |
16:05 |
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* bigsister: new VM on w91 |
16:05 |
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* maps: there new datas on deployments |
16:05 |
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ping _bernie CanoeBerry edmcnierney FGrose isforinsects JasonWoof lfaraone_ lilak mchua ravidgemole ravidgemole unmadindu |
16:06 |
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is there anything else we should speak about |
16:06 |
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??? |
16:06 |
mchua |
is in another meeting and not particularly helpful, but pingable in case. no agenda items to add. |
16:06 |
FGrose |
I'm here |
16:07 |
dogi |
hi FGrose |
16:07 |
edmcnierney |
hello, FGrose |
16:07 |
dogi |
there will be a long wiki strategie discussion .... |
16:07 |
FGrose |
edmcnierney: hi |
16:08 |
dogi |
JasonWoof, are u here? |
16:08 |
JasonWoof |
here. no agenda |
16:09 |
dogi |
there is that maps thing open ... for u if u want it? |
16:09 |
JasonWoof |
still? didn't you ask me if I could do that a month ago? |
16:09 |
dogi |
sure |
16:10 |
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is still hoping in u :) |
16:10 |
JasonWoof |
my health is improving, so I'm starting to have energy, but I've got a backlog of work to catch up on, so no volunteering for me for a couple weeks at least |
16:10 |
dogi |
ok |
16:10 |
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#topic maps: there new datas on deployments |
16:11 |
JasonWoof |
what's the news? |
16:11 |
dogi |
#action dogi: update http://laptop.org/en/children/[…]tries/index.shtml datas |
16:13 |
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i have a spreadsheet ... i wanted to have the automatically maps construction from that document |
16:13 |
JasonWoof |
from that URL or from your spreadsheet? |
16:13 |
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g1g1 locations are amusing :) |
16:14 |
dogi |
so that we have monthly/quarteryearly update there |
16:14 |
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lol |
16:14 |
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i need u for that part :) |
16:14 |
JasonWoof |
you have locations for individual g1g1 laptops? |
16:16 |
dogi |
not ad the moment |
16:16 |
unmadindu |
is half around (jumping between XOs and desktop). ping if needed |
16:16 |
dogi |
is speaking also with ur legal intern about privacy |
16:16 |
JasonWoof |
by the end of my last visit, I had scrapers for 2 or 3 formats. if none of those covers this map, it shouldn't be too too hard to extend it |
16:17 |
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I forget how much of that was in javascript, and how much on the server side though |
16:17 |
dogi |
sure :) |
16:18 |
JasonWoof |
anyawy, if nobody volunteers, ask me again in a couple weeks :) |
16:18 |
dogi |
but still i think u was one of the fastest persons i saw ... |
16:18 |
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sure |
16:18 |
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who is next? |
16:18 |
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ping ravidgemole |
16:18 |
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ping isforinsects |
16:19 |
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#topic idea: help promote this idea function |
16:20 |
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<dogi_> hi all |
16:20 |
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<nand> hello |
16:20 |
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<dogi_> i m the person behind idea.laptop.org |
16:20 |
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<dogi_> by the way nand good work :) |
16:20 |
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<dogi_> i have a little question ... |
16:20 |
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<nand> thx :) Please ask... |
16:20 |
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<nand> btw, is that an official ideatorrent of OLPC? |
16:20 |
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<dogi_> why is e.g. http://idea.laptop.org/drupal5[…]/idea/15/promote/ empty |
16:20 |
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<nand> Yeah, I should have desactivated that. If you look at ubuntu Brainstorm, you can see what it can look like |
16:20 |
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<nand> and if you are willing to spend some time with SQL and making image, you can do something similar |
16:20 |
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<dogi_> sure |
16:21 |
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any volunteer? |
16:21 |
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#action dogi: fix idea promote function |
16:22 |
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that we have something like .. |
16:22 |
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#link http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/idea/19982/promote/ |
16:23 |
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cause right now .../promote is empty |
16:23 |
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ping FGrose |
16:23 |
FGrose |
dogi: here |
16:24 |
dogi |
#topic wiki vig testwiki migration strategie ... |
16:24 |
isforinsects |
ello |
16:25 |
dogi |
isforinsects, can u reexplain ur request |
16:25 |
isforinsects |
I would like to discuss this mostly over email, and the group should expect a long one from me this evening. |
16:25 |
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My basic idea is as follows: |
16:26 |
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the current wiki server is hard to maintain for several reasons |
16:26 |
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We would like to migrate the wiki to a new VM, and off of the it's current host. |
16:26 |
dogi |
which is pedal |
16:27 |
isforinsects |
We need a new VM, get a stable LAMP server on it, get a functioning MediaWiki on it |
16:27 |
dogi |
a server doing a lot of other stuff |
16:27 |
isforinsects |
add our various extensions that we have now, and any new ones we would like to add for anti-spam etc |
16:27 |
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triple check that everything is running smoothly |
16:27 |
edmcnierney |
We should be careful to plan the physical hardware we're going to use to host that, too. |
16:28 |
isforinsects |
clone the current wiki database to the new server |
16:28 |
edmcnierney |
Just because VMs are portable doesn't mean we shouldn't try to put them in the right place first time :) |
16:28 |
dogi |
edmcnierney, sure |
16:28 |
JasonWoof |
would this new vm have the same version of mediawiki as the current wiki server? |
16:28 |
isforinsects |
make sure that the migration happened correctly, and that this works |
16:28 |
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etc |
16:28 |
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then-and-only-then move the domain |
16:29 |
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The version of MW that we have was updated fairly recently |
16:29 |
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My next email is going to be information gathering on this very subject |
16:29 |
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What versions are we running of things |
16:29 |
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what is considered most stable |
16:29 |
JasonWoof |
cool. also, don't forget to tell people that the wiki will be down for a (hopefully very short) time |
16:29 |
isforinsects |
Yes |
16:29 |
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but hopefully there should be no downtime |
16:29 |
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we may lock down editing for a while |
16:30 |
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but there should be a live mirror available at all times. |
16:30 |
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the VM should be a live and active clone of the current wiki before we move the domain |
16:30 |
JasonWoof |
people got upset when mw was upgraded, and a mistake caused 45 minutes of downtime |
16:30 |
isforinsects |
That's the plan in brief |
16:30 |
|
I recall |
16:30 |
JasonWoof |
they asked to be notified (vig at the very least) of future upgrades that would lock out editing |
16:30 |
isforinsects |
If anyone who is not on the olpc-sysadmin list who would like to be, please talk to dogi after/during the meeting. |
16:31 |
edmcnierney |
Is there an answer to the question, "What machine will this be hosted on?" yet? |
16:31 |
isforinsects |
I will be sending the next email to that list, hopefully ythis evening |
16:31 |
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edmcnierney: not yet |
16:31 |
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gotta run |
16:31 |
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ta ta! |
16:31 |
edmcnierney |
thanks |
16:31 |
JasonWoof |
thanks |
16:32 |
FGrose |
With a new host, a miror, and a test instance, that would be 3 machines |
16:32 |
dogi |
what isforinsects explained is the vision ...but testwiki.laptop.org is the prepared domain for that purpose and the next step in that task |
16:33 |
FGrose |
transition instance then for testing, and then back out the database after the migration? |
16:34 |
dogi |
my question is only do we want to turn on that on a new Ubuntu 9.04 vm ? |
16:34 |
FGrose |
Should be same as new primary host for w.l.o |
16:34 |
dogi |
or shlould we use the old 8.04 vig vm |
16:34 |
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FGrose, +1 |
16:36 |
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http://laptop.org/internalwiki[…]x.php/Machine:sun is a recipe to install wikis |
16:36 |
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is for a new VM |
16:36 |
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with 9.04 |
16:37 |
FGrose |
No account there for me |
16:37 |
dogi |
ok fine |
16:37 |
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#action dogi set up ubuntu 9.04 for testwiki |
16:38 |
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#action FGrose install wiki there ... |
16:38 |
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FGrose, do you have access to pedal? |
16:38 |
FGrose |
I don't thing so. |
16:38 |
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think |
16:39 |
dogi |
cause there is the actual config LocalSettings.php and database of ur wiki ... |
16:39 |
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but maybe i shloud handle that |
16:40 |
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are the 2 task ok with u? |
16:40 |
FGrose |
repeat the 2 please. |
16:41 |
dogi |
http://meeting.laptop.org/olpc[…]0090602_1603.html |
16:41 |
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#action dogi: cp http://laptop.org/internalwiki[…]x.php/Machine:sun to vig ... |
16:42 |
FGrose |
Ok, I and follow that and ideas from isforinsects to be published |
16:43 |
dogi |
i will give u a clean new base vm and u will install there testwiki ... :) |
16:43 |
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cool thx |
16:43 |
FGrose |
vig remains as is for now? |
16:43 |
dogi |
yes |
16:44 |
FGrose |
ok |
16:44 |
dogi |
is thinking about first to migrate vig to the new testwiki ... as a example migration |
16:45 |
FGrose |
sure, test the process with small database |
16:45 |
dogi |
:) |
16:45 |
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so who is here and who is next? |
16:46 |
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mchua, how fedora |
16:46 |
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are u now? |
16:47 |
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i have there something u should maybe take care of |
16:48 |
mchua |
dogi: lemme see the task and I'll see if I can take it |
16:48 |
dogi |
http://meeting.laptop.org/fedora-olpc/ needs a redesign |
16:48 |
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and a fedora dns cname for meeting.laptop.org |
16:49 |
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so that this look like http://meeting.sugarlabs.org |
16:49 |
mchua |
Hm. I'll ask ke4qqq about it, this is something that I can't do myself but he might have a better handle on. |
16:50 |
dogi |
:) |
16:50 |
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ping ravidgemole |
16:50 |
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ping adric |
16:50 |
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:( |
16:50 |
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#topic backup |
16:51 |
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xxv and me are working on setting up that service |
16:51 |
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this week there is nothing to show |
16:51 |
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#topic other |
16:51 |
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ping hhardy |
16:53 |
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#endmeeting |