| Time | Nick | Message |
|---|---|---|
| 16:03 | dogi | sure JasonWoof |
| 16:03 | #topic Agenda | |
| 16:04 | * backup: new VM for streaming to a robot tape solution | |
| 16:04 | * pinguin: new www | |
| 16:04 | * meeting: new structure and meeting.sugarlabs.org | |
| 16:04 | * vig and wiki (testwiki): migration plan | |
| 16:04 | * idea: help promote this idea function | |
| 16:04 | * rt: migration plan | |
| 16:05 | * bigsister: new VM on w91 | |
| 16:05 | * maps: there new datas on deployments | |
| 16:05 | ping _bernie CanoeBerry edmcnierney FGrose isforinsects JasonWoof lfaraone_ lilak mchua ravidgemole ravidgemole unmadindu | |
| 16:06 | is there anything else we should speak about | |
| 16:06 | ??? | |
| 16:06 | mchua | is in another meeting and not particularly helpful, but pingable in case. no agenda items to add. |
| 16:06 | FGrose | I'm here |
| 16:07 | dogi | hi FGrose |
| 16:07 | edmcnierney | hello, FGrose |
| 16:07 | dogi | there will be a long wiki strategie discussion .... |
| 16:07 | FGrose | edmcnierney: hi |
| 16:08 | dogi | JasonWoof, are u here? |
| 16:08 | JasonWoof | here. no agenda |
| 16:09 | dogi | there is that maps thing open ... for u if u want it? |
| 16:09 | JasonWoof | still? didn't you ask me if I could do that a month ago? |
| 16:09 | dogi | sure |
| 16:10 | is still hoping in u :) | |
| 16:10 | JasonWoof | my health is improving, so I'm starting to have energy, but I've got a backlog of work to catch up on, so no volunteering for me for a couple weeks at least |
| 16:10 | dogi | ok |
| 16:10 | #topic maps: there new datas on deployments | |
| 16:11 | JasonWoof | what's the news? |
| 16:11 | dogi | #action dogi: update http://laptop.org/en/children/[…]tries/index.shtml datas |
| 16:13 | i have a spreadsheet ... i wanted to have the automatically maps construction from that document | |
| 16:13 | JasonWoof | from that URL or from your spreadsheet? |
| 16:13 | g1g1 locations are amusing :) | |
| 16:14 | dogi | so that we have monthly/quarteryearly update there |
| 16:14 | lol | |
| 16:14 | i need u for that part :) | |
| 16:14 | JasonWoof | you have locations for individual g1g1 laptops? |
| 16:16 | dogi | not ad the moment |
| 16:16 | unmadindu | is half around (jumping between XOs and desktop). ping if needed |
| 16:16 | dogi | is speaking also with ur legal intern about privacy |
| 16:16 | JasonWoof | by the end of my last visit, I had scrapers for 2 or 3 formats. if none of those covers this map, it shouldn't be too too hard to extend it |
| 16:17 | I forget how much of that was in javascript, and how much on the server side though | |
| 16:17 | dogi | sure :) |
| 16:18 | JasonWoof | anyawy, if nobody volunteers, ask me again in a couple weeks :) |
| 16:18 | dogi | but still i think u was one of the fastest persons i saw ... |
| 16:18 | sure | |
| 16:18 | who is next? | |
| 16:18 | ping ravidgemole | |
| 16:18 | ping isforinsects | |
| 16:19 | #topic idea: help promote this idea function | |
| 16:20 | <dogi_> hi all | |
| 16:20 | <nand> hello | |
| 16:20 | <dogi_> i m the person behind idea.laptop.org | |
| 16:20 | <dogi_> by the way nand good work :) | |
| 16:20 | <dogi_> i have a little question ... | |
| 16:20 | <nand> thx :) Please ask... | |
| 16:20 | <nand> btw, is that an official ideatorrent of OLPC? | |
| 16:20 | <dogi_> why is e.g. http://idea.laptop.org/drupal5[…]/idea/15/promote/ empty | |
| 16:20 | <nand> Yeah, I should have desactivated that. If you look at ubuntu Brainstorm, you can see what it can look like | |
| 16:20 | <nand> and if you are willing to spend some time with SQL and making image, you can do something similar | |
| 16:20 | <dogi_> sure | |
| 16:21 | any volunteer? | |
| 16:21 | #action dogi: fix idea promote function | |
| 16:22 | that we have something like .. | |
| 16:22 | #link http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/idea/19982/promote/ | |
| 16:23 | cause right now .../promote is empty | |
| 16:23 | ping FGrose | |
| 16:23 | FGrose | dogi: here |
| 16:24 | dogi | #topic wiki vig testwiki migration strategie ... |
| 16:24 | isforinsects | ello |
| 16:25 | dogi | isforinsects, can u reexplain ur request |
| 16:25 | isforinsects | I would like to discuss this mostly over email, and the group should expect a long one from me this evening. |
| 16:25 | My basic idea is as follows: | |
| 16:26 | the current wiki server is hard to maintain for several reasons | |
| 16:26 | We would like to migrate the wiki to a new VM, and off of the it's current host. | |
| 16:26 | dogi | which is pedal |
| 16:27 | isforinsects | We need a new VM, get a stable LAMP server on it, get a functioning MediaWiki on it |
| 16:27 | dogi | a server doing a lot of other stuff |
| 16:27 | isforinsects | add our various extensions that we have now, and any new ones we would like to add for anti-spam etc |
| 16:27 | triple check that everything is running smoothly | |
| 16:27 | edmcnierney | We should be careful to plan the physical hardware we're going to use to host that, too. |
| 16:28 | isforinsects | clone the current wiki database to the new server |
| 16:28 | edmcnierney | Just because VMs are portable doesn't mean we shouldn't try to put them in the right place first time :) |
| 16:28 | dogi | edmcnierney, sure |
| 16:28 | JasonWoof | would this new vm have the same version of mediawiki as the current wiki server? |
| 16:28 | isforinsects | make sure that the migration happened correctly, and that this works |
| 16:28 | etc | |
| 16:28 | then-and-only-then move the domain | |
| 16:29 | The version of MW that we have was updated fairly recently | |
| 16:29 | My next email is going to be information gathering on this very subject | |
| 16:29 | What versions are we running of things | |
| 16:29 | what is considered most stable | |
| 16:29 | JasonWoof | cool. also, don't forget to tell people that the wiki will be down for a (hopefully very short) time |
| 16:29 | isforinsects | Yes |
| 16:29 | but hopefully there should be no downtime | |
| 16:29 | we may lock down editing for a while | |
| 16:30 | but there should be a live mirror available at all times. | |
| 16:30 | the VM should be a live and active clone of the current wiki before we move the domain | |
| 16:30 | JasonWoof | people got upset when mw was upgraded, and a mistake caused 45 minutes of downtime |
| 16:30 | isforinsects | That's the plan in brief |
| 16:30 | I recall | |
| 16:30 | JasonWoof | they asked to be notified (vig at the very least) of future upgrades that would lock out editing |
| 16:30 | isforinsects | If anyone who is not on the olpc-sysadmin list who would like to be, please talk to dogi after/during the meeting. |
| 16:31 | edmcnierney | Is there an answer to the question, "What machine will this be hosted on?" yet? |
| 16:31 | isforinsects | I will be sending the next email to that list, hopefully ythis evening |
| 16:31 | edmcnierney: not yet | |
| 16:31 | gotta run | |
| 16:31 | ta ta! | |
| 16:31 | edmcnierney | thanks |
| 16:31 | JasonWoof | thanks |
| 16:32 | FGrose | With a new host, a miror, and a test instance, that would be 3 machines |
| 16:32 | dogi | what isforinsects explained is the vision ...but testwiki.laptop.org is the prepared domain for that purpose and the next step in that task |
| 16:33 | FGrose | transition instance then for testing, and then back out the database after the migration? |
| 16:34 | dogi | my question is only do we want to turn on that on a new Ubuntu 9.04 vm ? |
| 16:34 | FGrose | Should be same as new primary host for w.l.o |
| 16:34 | dogi | or shlould we use the old 8.04 vig vm |
| 16:34 | FGrose, +1 | |
| 16:36 | http://laptop.org/internalwiki[…]x.php/Machine:sun is a recipe to install wikis | |
| 16:36 | is for a new VM | |
| 16:36 | with 9.04 | |
| 16:37 | FGrose | No account there for me |
| 16:37 | dogi | ok fine |
| 16:37 | #action dogi set up ubuntu 9.04 for testwiki | |
| 16:38 | #action FGrose install wiki there ... | |
| 16:38 | FGrose, do you have access to pedal? | |
| 16:38 | FGrose | I don't thing so. |
| 16:38 | think | |
| 16:39 | dogi | cause there is the actual config LocalSettings.php and database of ur wiki ... |
| 16:39 | but maybe i shloud handle that | |
| 16:40 | are the 2 task ok with u? | |
| 16:40 | FGrose | repeat the 2 please. |
| 16:41 | dogi | http://meeting.laptop.org/olpc[…]0090602_1603.html |
| 16:41 | #action dogi: cp http://laptop.org/internalwiki[…]x.php/Machine:sun to vig ... | |
| 16:42 | FGrose | Ok, I and follow that and ideas from isforinsects to be published |
| 16:43 | dogi | i will give u a clean new base vm and u will install there testwiki ... :) |
| 16:43 | cool thx | |
| 16:43 | FGrose | vig remains as is for now? |
| 16:43 | dogi | yes |
| 16:44 | FGrose | ok |
| 16:44 | dogi | is thinking about first to migrate vig to the new testwiki ... as a example migration |
| 16:45 | FGrose | sure, test the process with small database |
| 16:45 | dogi | :) |
| 16:45 | so who is here and who is next? | |
| 16:46 | mchua, how fedora | |
| 16:46 | are u now? | |
| 16:47 | i have there something u should maybe take care of | |
| 16:48 | mchua | dogi: lemme see the task and I'll see if I can take it |
| 16:48 | dogi | http://meeting.laptop.org/fedora-olpc/ needs a redesign |
| 16:48 | and a fedora dns cname for meeting.laptop.org | |
| 16:49 | so that this look like http://meeting.sugarlabs.org | |
| 16:49 | mchua | Hm. I'll ask ke4qqq about it, this is something that I can't do myself but he might have a better handle on. |
| 16:50 | dogi | :) |
| 16:50 | ping ravidgemole | |
| 16:50 | ping adric | |
| 16:50 | :( | |
| 16:50 | #topic backup | |
| 16:51 | xxv and me are working on setting up that service | |
| 16:51 | this week there is nothing to show | |
| 16:51 | #topic other | |
| 16:51 | ping hhardy | |
| 16:53 | #endmeeting |