| Time | Nick | Message |
|---|---|---|
| 16:04 | garycmartin | Hi joef, just a volunteer working on some XO qa scripts. |
| 16:04 | dogi | can everybody short present himself? |
| 16:04 | is Stefan Unterhauser | |
| 16:04 | joef | hi garycmartin |
| 16:05 | i lead QA at OLPC | |
| 16:05 | adric | adric is Ben S. Knowles, olpc volunteer |
| 16:05 | joef | is Joe Feinstein |
| 16:06 | dogi | #topic agenda |
| 16:06 | # bernie wiki updates/openid | |
| 16:06 | # dogi to setup google spreadsheet for website usability test matrix | |
| 16:07 | # henry backups | |
| 16:07 | * swan needs backup | |
| 16:07 | * databases need backups | |
| 16:07 | * TSM backups for all | |
| 16:07 | # cjl research nice free backup management tools | |
| 16:07 | # KVM update for VIG | |
| 16:07 | # dogi servers of VIG | |
| 16:07 | * adric updates rt-new.laptop.org/rt.mogidi.net | |
| 16:07 | * jason updates maps.laptop.org/maps.mogidi.net | |
| 16:07 | # joe XO on the new laptop.org test | |
| 16:07 | # webteam CMS for website www.laptop.org | |
| 16:07 | * i18n/pootle | |
| 16:07 | * git | |
| 16:07 | # google search laptop: laptop.org is only on the last place on the first site | |
| 16:07 | # other ideas :P | |
| 16:08 | sorry ... bad bot :P | |
| 16:08 | garycmartin2 | (sorry problems with irc here, just trying a different client) |
| 16:08 | dogi | #topic openid |
| 16:08 | _bernie ping ? | |
| 16:08 | garycmartin2 | damn, still broken :-( |
| 16:09 | dogi | since left a notice that he is little late .. |
| 16:09 | #topic VIG servers | |
| 16:10 | ups garycmartin2 what is broken? | |
| 16:10 | hi ian | |
| 16:10 | hmmm | |
| 16:10 | ok back to VIG servers | |
| 16:11 | since in olpc we now have 2 ubuntu/kvm machines | |
| 16:11 | adric | ooooh, yay! |
| 16:11 | dogi | I m able to give every VIG Member his sandbox |
| 16:12 | yes adric uyou was one of the first :) | |
| 16:12 | -u | |
| 16:13 | do u have updates ... on rt-new.laptop.org front ? | |
| 16:13 | #topic rt-new.laptop.org | |
| 16:13 | adric? | |
| 16:14 | adric | Yep. I'm going to be using it to try out rt3.8 on a copy of the prod DB to see how that goes. |
| 16:14 | dogi | can u docment what u change on ur sandbox? |
| 16:14 | adric | dogi: Right, once I figure out where to put things. |
| 16:15 | dogi | i m fine with that ... but maybe write down what u wnated to do ... |
| 16:16 | so later we now what was your plan :P | |
| 16:16 | upsa know | |
| 16:16 | adric | Right :) |
| 16:16 | dogi | thx |
| 16:16 | adric | Seine Englisch is sehr gut :) |
| 16:17 | dogi | :) |
| 16:17 | #topic maps.laptop.org | |
| 16:17 | adric | I'll mail the list one I have something to share. Holiday week here in the states, so pretty crzy. |
| 16:17 | _bernie | here! |
| 16:17 | sorry for being late | |
| 16:17 | dogi | cause jason is already in his thanksgiving holiday i will speak for him |
| 16:18 | http://g1g1maps.unterhauser.name/jason/ | |
| 16:18 | _bernie | dogi: let me know when you want to rehash the wiki/openid session. |
| 16:18 | dogi | is a new prototyp |
| 16:18 | hi bernie | |
| 16:18 | ok | |
| 16:18 | new prototyp | |
| 16:20 | ... it is repalcement for the http://maps.google.com/maps/ms[…]01132ad0d5f3d14f8 | |
| 16:20 | which we have problem with vandalism | |
| 16:20 | adric | Oh, spammers? |
| 16:21 | is4 | No, people just deleting stuff |
| 16:21 | dogi | is there anybody interrestet to help jason? |
| 16:22 | #topic openid | |
| 16:22 | bernie ... ur turn | |
| 16:23 | _bernie | dogi: shall I go on? |
| 16:23 | dogi | yah |
| 16:24 | i know u was able openiding sugarlabs wikipage? | |
| 16:24 | how difficult is that? | |
| 16:27 | _bernie | sorry, I got dropped off irc |
| 16:27 | dogi | #topic VIG members sandbox requests? |
| 16:27 | _bernie | not too difficult, I can install it on all wikis or help whoever will do it |
| 16:27 | dogi | #topic opneid |
| 16:27 | ups | |
| 16:27 | _bernie | the implementation is actually not very conforming/flexible |
| 16:28 | dogi | #topic openid |
| 16:28 | _bernie | dogi: who is in charge for the wikis? I could come over tomorrow and we'll do it together |
| 16:28 | dogi: we should also do it for trac | |
| 16:29 | dogi | for me that is fine ... |
| 16:29 | maybe first wiki | |
| 16:29 | and later trac ... | |
| 16:29 | but want i wanted to know | |
| 16:30 | is had u problems during that passwd.login migration | |
| 16:30 | ??? | |
| 16:31 | or does now all works fine? | |
| 16:31 | _bernie | err... actually if you ever use openid to login once, then you can't use your wiki user as an openid _server_ to authenticate against other wikis |
| 16:32 | maybe I should rephrase that | |
| 16:32 | you can either: | |
| 16:32 | 1) use your existing openid to access the wiki | |
| 16:32 | 2) use your wiki user to access other openid-enabled sites | |
| 16:32 | dogi | ok |
| 16:32 | _bernie | but if you do (1) at least once, you can't do (2) ever again |
| 16:33 | it's so by design, apparently, I've looked at the code | |
| 16:33 | plus, the openid engine does not support redirects, etc. | |
| 16:33 | dogi | hmmm there is no way back ??? |
| 16:33 | ok | |
| 16:33 | _bernie | I had to delete the record in the db to make it work |
| 16:33 | or we could patch the php code to remove that chack | |
| 16:33 | *check | |
| 16:33 | anyway, I think we want to do (1) mainly | |
| 16:34 | I also know a generic openid provider called phpopenid | |
| 16:34 | dogi | yes and no |
| 16:34 | _bernie | but it's not multiuser |
| 16:34 | dogi | i wanted to have only 2 |
| 16:34 | _bernie | when is hhardy back from vacation btw? |
| 16:34 | dogi | on monday |
| 16:34 | adric | Hmm, seems like we nee to clarify .. |
| 16:34 | _bernie | you probably already have plenty of openid's |
| 16:34 | adric | If we're doing this whole hog, I would think oid.l.o would be better for 2 |
| 16:35 | dogi | so I think that is the best day to change something |
| 16:35 | _bernie | dogi: http://openid.net/get/ |
| 16:35 | adric: you can have both... openid lets you delegate | |
| 16:35 | adric: I mean, you can say "www.bernie-is-such-a-hacker.com/" is my openid... | |
| 16:36 | adric | _bernie: True, mroe for nomenclature and support. Dont' want to confuse the suers |
| 16:36 | _bernie | ...when in fact that page is just static html with <meta ...> tags pointing at a real openid provider |
| 16:36 | adric | oooh, right. |
| 16:36 | dogi | ok _bernie |
| 16:36 | _bernie | adric: I prefer my openid to be "http://codewiz.org/", for example. |
| 16:37 | dogi | #action bernie at 1cc on monday? |
| 16:37 | garycmartin | dogi: (any google or yahoo account works as openid these days) |
| 16:37 | _bernie | the point of openid is _exactly_ that every user gets to choose where to keep it for _all_ the internet sites out there |
| 16:37 | dogi: approved. | |
| 16:37 | dogi | thx |
| 16:37 | _bernie | ;-) |
| 16:37 | dogi | what I wanted to ask befor |
| 16:37 | _bernie | we can decide to work on openid all afternoon |
| 16:38 | dogi | is there a VIG member who wants a sandbox... |
| 16:39 | #topic www.laptop.org | |
| 16:39 | most person here know that ... but we have a new front page | |
| 16:40 | and there we have a lot of little problems | |
| 16:41 | #topic XO for testing the web page -- joef | |
| 16:42 | for now I did the most testing on normal machiens | |
| 16:42 | ups | |
| 16:42 | machines | |
| 16:42 | joef | dogi showed me that something doesn't work well on XO |
| 16:43 | dogi | and today I ask joef to look laptop.org from the persective of his XO |
| 16:43 | the browse acitvity | |
| 16:43 | joef | dogi - please provide details |
| 16:43 | dogi | XO/opera XO/firefox |
| 16:43 | garycmartin | dogi: wow that banner fade sure is slow on an XO. |
| 16:44 | adric | must be javascript |
| 16:44 | joef | garycmartin: it's not just that |
| 16:44 | dogi | we have 3 different thing that need to be tested |
| 16:44 | flash from flickr | |
| 16:44 | flash form youtube | |
| 16:44 | and map from google | |
| 16:45 | the rest for now is a static webpage | |
| 16:45 | garycmartin: I know | |
| 16:46 | garycmartin | dogi: I can see the map is going to be touch on the XO for sure, its even quite painful on my full sized machine. |
| 16:46 | (touch==tough) | |
| 16:46 | dogi | and what we need is maybe is4 fallbackplans to ogg videos |
| 16:46 | ping is4 | |
| 16:46 | is4 | If someone is good at ogg encoding I would be happy to send sources to them |
| 16:47 | I don't know right now. It's still very fluid as to the video hosting | |
| 16:48 | Right now I think that it's safe to assume that none of the flash works and wont for a little while. | |
| 16:48 | I am going to look into how archive.org does flash/ogg | |
| 16:48 | dogi | #action seth ogg/archive.org |
| 16:49 | garycmartin | is4: yea, just testing some of the flash flicker streams, none working here (just get blank white). |
| 16:50 | which page is the map on again? | |
| 16:50 | dogi | children / countries |
| 16:53 | garycmartin-6cc6 | sorry, my XOborked out trying to view the rotating XO flash. |
| 16:53 | dogi | #topic CMS for the new page |
| 16:54 | adric | Whoops, I'm almost out of battery here. Going to duck out early, sorry. |
| 16:54 | dogi | for now www.laptop.org is a static webpage |
| 16:55 | is looking for a cms system which has i18n abilties | |
| 16:56 | adric | Uh, sure. From a sysad perspetive you really want that root page to be static, to survive traffic flux. |
| 16:57 | dogi | but for now that high traffic is over ... |
| 16:57 | I tell u what i have in mind | |
| 16:57 | since in olpc/laptop.org the python knowledge is required ... django | |
| 16:58 | what do you think about that? | |
| 16:59 | http://www.djangoproject.com | |
| 16:59 | garycmartin-6cc6 | dogi: read good things about it, but never used it myself in anger. |
| 16:59 | adric | is popular with th linuxchix, but I haven't poked it myself |
| 16:59 | poofs. | |
| 17:00 | dogi | http://docs.djangoproject.com/[…]18n/?from=olddocs |
| 17:02 | #topic other | |
| 17:02 | ideas? | |
| 17:02 | did I forget something? | |
| 17:02 | garycmartin-6cc6 | dogi: Is this the place to ping joef about multi-xo testbed script? |
| 17:03 | dogi: or is that wrong infrastructure :-) | |
| 17:04 | dogi | maybe try |
| 17:04 | joef | garycmartin-6cc6: what do you want from me? |
| 17:04 | garycmartin-6cc6 | joef: Just want to make sure I make the script work for you. |
| 17:05 | joef | garycmartin-6cc6: ok, is it ready? |
| 17:05 | garycmartin-6cc6 | joef: it's running fine on the 3 xos here, but I have a design choice to make... |
| 17:05 | joef | garycmartin-6cc6: which one? |
| 17:06 | garycmartin-6cc6 | joef: ...I can store logs based on IP or based on XO serial number... |
| 17:06 | joef | garycmartin-6cc6: actually, on both! |
| 17:07 | garycmartin-6cc6 | joef: ... IP is the easy one, but if XOs get new DHCP IP addresses, each log ends up (over time) with data from different XOs in. |
| 17:07 | joef | garycmartin-6cc6: but serial # is certainly critical |
| 17:07 | garycmartin-6cc6: right | |
| 17:07 | dogi | #endmeeting |