Time |
Nick |
Message |
16:04 |
garycmartin |
Hi joef, just a volunteer working on some XO qa scripts. |
16:04 |
dogi |
can everybody short present himself? |
16:04 |
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is Stefan Unterhauser |
16:04 |
joef |
hi garycmartin |
16:05 |
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i lead QA at OLPC |
16:05 |
adric |
adric is Ben S. Knowles, olpc volunteer |
16:05 |
joef |
is Joe Feinstein |
16:06 |
dogi |
#topic agenda |
16:06 |
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# bernie wiki updates/openid |
16:06 |
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# dogi to setup google spreadsheet for website usability test matrix |
16:07 |
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# henry backups |
16:07 |
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* swan needs backup |
16:07 |
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* databases need backups |
16:07 |
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* TSM backups for all |
16:07 |
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# cjl research nice free backup management tools |
16:07 |
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# KVM update for VIG |
16:07 |
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# dogi servers of VIG |
16:07 |
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* adric updates rt-new.laptop.org/rt.mogidi.net |
16:07 |
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* jason updates maps.laptop.org/maps.mogidi.net |
16:07 |
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# joe XO on the new laptop.org test |
16:07 |
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# webteam CMS for website www.laptop.org |
16:07 |
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* i18n/pootle |
16:07 |
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* git |
16:07 |
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# google search laptop: laptop.org is only on the last place on the first site |
16:07 |
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# other ideas :P |
16:08 |
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sorry ... bad bot :P |
16:08 |
garycmartin2 |
(sorry problems with irc here, just trying a different client) |
16:08 |
dogi |
#topic openid |
16:08 |
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_bernie ping ? |
16:08 |
garycmartin2 |
damn, still broken :-( |
16:09 |
dogi |
since left a notice that he is little late .. |
16:09 |
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#topic VIG servers |
16:10 |
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ups garycmartin2 what is broken? |
16:10 |
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hi ian |
16:10 |
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hmmm |
16:10 |
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ok back to VIG servers |
16:11 |
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since in olpc we now have 2 ubuntu/kvm machines |
16:11 |
adric |
ooooh, yay! |
16:11 |
dogi |
I m able to give every VIG Member his sandbox |
16:12 |
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yes adric uyou was one of the first :) |
16:12 |
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-u |
16:13 |
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do u have updates ... on rt-new.laptop.org front ? |
16:13 |
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#topic rt-new.laptop.org |
16:13 |
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adric? |
16:14 |
adric |
Yep. I'm going to be using it to try out rt3.8 on a copy of the prod DB to see how that goes. |
16:14 |
dogi |
can u docment what u change on ur sandbox? |
16:14 |
adric |
dogi: Right, once I figure out where to put things. |
16:15 |
dogi |
i m fine with that ... but maybe write down what u wnated to do ... |
16:16 |
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so later we now what was your plan :P |
16:16 |
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upsa know |
16:16 |
adric |
Right :) |
16:16 |
dogi |
thx |
16:16 |
adric |
Seine Englisch is sehr gut :) |
16:17 |
dogi |
:) |
16:17 |
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#topic maps.laptop.org |
16:17 |
adric |
I'll mail the list one I have something to share. Holiday week here in the states, so pretty crzy. |
16:17 |
_bernie |
here! |
16:17 |
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sorry for being late |
16:17 |
dogi |
cause jason is already in his thanksgiving holiday i will speak for him |
16:18 |
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http://g1g1maps.unterhauser.name/jason/ |
16:18 |
_bernie |
dogi: let me know when you want to rehash the wiki/openid session. |
16:18 |
dogi |
is a new prototyp |
16:18 |
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hi bernie |
16:18 |
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ok |
16:18 |
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new prototyp |
16:20 |
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... it is repalcement for the http://maps.google.com/maps/ms[…]01132ad0d5f3d14f8 |
16:20 |
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which we have problem with vandalism |
16:20 |
adric |
Oh, spammers? |
16:21 |
is4 |
No, people just deleting stuff |
16:21 |
dogi |
is there anybody interrestet to help jason? |
16:22 |
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#topic openid |
16:22 |
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bernie ... ur turn |
16:23 |
_bernie |
dogi: shall I go on? |
16:23 |
dogi |
yah |
16:24 |
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i know u was able openiding sugarlabs wikipage? |
16:24 |
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how difficult is that? |
16:27 |
_bernie |
sorry, I got dropped off irc |
16:27 |
dogi |
#topic VIG members sandbox requests? |
16:27 |
_bernie |
not too difficult, I can install it on all wikis or help whoever will do it |
16:27 |
dogi |
#topic opneid |
16:27 |
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ups |
16:27 |
_bernie |
the implementation is actually not very conforming/flexible |
16:28 |
dogi |
#topic openid |
16:28 |
_bernie |
dogi: who is in charge for the wikis? I could come over tomorrow and we'll do it together |
16:28 |
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dogi: we should also do it for trac |
16:29 |
dogi |
for me that is fine ... |
16:29 |
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maybe first wiki |
16:29 |
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and later trac ... |
16:29 |
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but want i wanted to know |
16:30 |
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is had u problems during that passwd.login migration |
16:30 |
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??? |
16:31 |
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or does now all works fine? |
16:31 |
_bernie |
err... actually if you ever use openid to login once, then you can't use your wiki user as an openid _server_ to authenticate against other wikis |
16:32 |
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maybe I should rephrase that |
16:32 |
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you can either: |
16:32 |
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1) use your existing openid to access the wiki |
16:32 |
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2) use your wiki user to access other openid-enabled sites |
16:32 |
dogi |
ok |
16:32 |
_bernie |
but if you do (1) at least once, you can't do (2) ever again |
16:33 |
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it's so by design, apparently, I've looked at the code |
16:33 |
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plus, the openid engine does not support redirects, etc. |
16:33 |
dogi |
hmmm there is no way back ??? |
16:33 |
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ok |
16:33 |
_bernie |
I had to delete the record in the db to make it work |
16:33 |
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or we could patch the php code to remove that chack |
16:33 |
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*check |
16:33 |
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anyway, I think we want to do (1) mainly |
16:34 |
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I also know a generic openid provider called phpopenid |
16:34 |
dogi |
yes and no |
16:34 |
_bernie |
but it's not multiuser |
16:34 |
dogi |
i wanted to have only 2 |
16:34 |
_bernie |
when is hhardy back from vacation btw? |
16:34 |
dogi |
on monday |
16:34 |
adric |
Hmm, seems like we nee to clarify .. |
16:34 |
_bernie |
you probably already have plenty of openid's |
16:34 |
adric |
If we're doing this whole hog, I would think oid.l.o would be better for 2 |
16:35 |
dogi |
so I think that is the best day to change something |
16:35 |
_bernie |
dogi: http://openid.net/get/ |
16:35 |
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adric: you can have both... openid lets you delegate |
16:35 |
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adric: I mean, you can say "www.bernie-is-such-a-hacker.com/" is my openid... |
16:36 |
adric |
_bernie: True, mroe for nomenclature and support. Dont' want to confuse the suers |
16:36 |
_bernie |
...when in fact that page is just static html with <meta ...> tags pointing at a real openid provider |
16:36 |
adric |
oooh, right. |
16:36 |
dogi |
ok _bernie |
16:36 |
_bernie |
adric: I prefer my openid to be "http://codewiz.org/", for example. |
16:37 |
dogi |
#action bernie at 1cc on monday? |
16:37 |
garycmartin |
dogi: (any google or yahoo account works as openid these days) |
16:37 |
_bernie |
the point of openid is _exactly_ that every user gets to choose where to keep it for _all_ the internet sites out there |
16:37 |
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dogi: approved. |
16:37 |
dogi |
thx |
16:37 |
_bernie |
;-) |
16:37 |
dogi |
what I wanted to ask befor |
16:37 |
_bernie |
we can decide to work on openid all afternoon |
16:38 |
dogi |
is there a VIG member who wants a sandbox... |
16:39 |
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#topic www.laptop.org |
16:39 |
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most person here know that ... but we have a new front page |
16:40 |
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and there we have a lot of little problems |
16:41 |
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#topic XO for testing the web page -- joef |
16:42 |
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for now I did the most testing on normal machiens |
16:42 |
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ups |
16:42 |
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machines |
16:42 |
joef |
dogi showed me that something doesn't work well on XO |
16:43 |
dogi |
and today I ask joef to look laptop.org from the persective of his XO |
16:43 |
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the browse acitvity |
16:43 |
joef |
dogi - please provide details |
16:43 |
dogi |
XO/opera XO/firefox |
16:43 |
garycmartin |
dogi: wow that banner fade sure is slow on an XO. |
16:44 |
adric |
must be javascript |
16:44 |
joef |
garycmartin: it's not just that |
16:44 |
dogi |
we have 3 different thing that need to be tested |
16:44 |
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flash from flickr |
16:44 |
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flash form youtube |
16:44 |
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and map from google |
16:45 |
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the rest for now is a static webpage |
16:45 |
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garycmartin: I know |
16:46 |
garycmartin |
dogi: I can see the map is going to be touch on the XO for sure, its even quite painful on my full sized machine. |
16:46 |
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(touch==tough) |
16:46 |
dogi |
and what we need is maybe is4 fallbackplans to ogg videos |
16:46 |
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ping is4 |
16:46 |
is4 |
If someone is good at ogg encoding I would be happy to send sources to them |
16:47 |
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I don't know right now. It's still very fluid as to the video hosting |
16:48 |
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Right now I think that it's safe to assume that none of the flash works and wont for a little while. |
16:48 |
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I am going to look into how archive.org does flash/ogg |
16:48 |
dogi |
#action seth ogg/archive.org |
16:49 |
garycmartin |
is4: yea, just testing some of the flash flicker streams, none working here (just get blank white). |
16:50 |
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which page is the map on again? |
16:50 |
dogi |
children / countries |
16:53 |
garycmartin-6cc6 |
sorry, my XOborked out trying to view the rotating XO flash. |
16:53 |
dogi |
#topic CMS for the new page |
16:54 |
adric |
Whoops, I'm almost out of battery here. Going to duck out early, sorry. |
16:54 |
dogi |
for now www.laptop.org is a static webpage |
16:55 |
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is looking for a cms system which has i18n abilties |
16:56 |
adric |
Uh, sure. From a sysad perspetive you really want that root page to be static, to survive traffic flux. |
16:57 |
dogi |
but for now that high traffic is over ... |
16:57 |
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I tell u what i have in mind |
16:57 |
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since in olpc/laptop.org the python knowledge is required ... django |
16:58 |
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what do you think about that? |
16:59 |
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http://www.djangoproject.com |
16:59 |
garycmartin-6cc6 |
dogi: read good things about it, but never used it myself in anger. |
16:59 |
adric |
is popular with th linuxchix, but I haven't poked it myself |
16:59 |
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poofs. |
17:00 |
dogi |
http://docs.djangoproject.com/[…]18n/?from=olddocs |
17:02 |
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#topic other |
17:02 |
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ideas? |
17:02 |
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did I forget something? |
17:02 |
garycmartin-6cc6 |
dogi: Is this the place to ping joef about multi-xo testbed script? |
17:03 |
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dogi: or is that wrong infrastructure :-) |
17:04 |
dogi |
maybe try |
17:04 |
joef |
garycmartin-6cc6: what do you want from me? |
17:04 |
garycmartin-6cc6 |
joef: Just want to make sure I make the script work for you. |
17:05 |
joef |
garycmartin-6cc6: ok, is it ready? |
17:05 |
garycmartin-6cc6 |
joef: it's running fine on the 3 xos here, but I have a design choice to make... |
17:05 |
joef |
garycmartin-6cc6: which one? |
17:06 |
garycmartin-6cc6 |
joef: ...I can store logs based on IP or based on XO serial number... |
17:06 |
joef |
garycmartin-6cc6: actually, on both! |
17:07 |
garycmartin-6cc6 |
joef: ... IP is the easy one, but if XOs get new DHCP IP addresses, each log ends up (over time) with data from different XOs in. |
17:07 |
joef |
garycmartin-6cc6: but serial # is certainly critical |
17:07 |
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garycmartin-6cc6: right |
17:07 |
dogi |
#endmeeting |