Time |
Nick |
Message |
15:59 |
hhardy |
who is here? |
16:03 |
dogi |
hi all |
16:03 |
hhardy |
there is no all just me lol |
16:03 |
dogi |
:) |
16:04 |
hhardy |
I discussed a few things to do about rt with adric |
16:04 |
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backups |
16:04 |
dogi |
to u saw the last point I added |
16:04 |
|
ups |
16:04 |
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do u |
16:04 |
is4 |
Hello |
16:04 |
dogi |
hi is4 |
16:05 |
hhardy |
hi is4 |
16:05 |
|
ed, bernie, adric said they cant make it today |
16:05 |
dogi |
#topic VIG kvm server? |
16:05 |
cjl |
hey is4 |
16:05 |
is4 |
hey cjl |
16:05 |
hhardy |
ok |
16:06 |
|
#topic G1G1 issues |
16:06 |
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the way the web sie was implmented on swan can use some improvements |
16:06 |
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namely everything on one 10 GB partition when there is 4.5 TB free |
16:06 |
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and it needs backups |
16:07 |
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what else nbeeds doing infrastructure wise as a priority for g1g1? |
16:08 |
mchua |
I'm here for a bit, though I'm probably not too useful this week |
16:08 |
hhardy |
mchua what you busy with? testing? |
16:09 |
dogi |
the 3 virtual machines are backuped with git? |
16:10 |
hhardy |
the website content is |
16:10 |
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not logfiles and settings |
16:10 |
dogi |
and the documentation in the wikis |
16:10 |
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hmm |
16:11 |
hhardy |
ah thats a good point we should think about migrating our documentation off of internal into git |
16:11 |
dogi |
we need to test the laptop.org site ... |
16:11 |
hhardy |
#ACTION ITEM put documtnation from itnernal to git |
16:11 |
dogi |
:) |
16:11 |
hhardy |
test it how |
16:12 |
dogi |
with all different browsers and OSes look if all works .... |
16:13 |
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and then send website laptop.org |
16:13 |
hhardy |
ok who is going to do that? |
16:13 |
dogi |
we all ...? |
16:14 |
cjl |
I've got IE6 and IE7 available, also FF3, but you guys probably have plenty of those. |
16:14 |
dogi |
everybody has maybe a diffenerent setup ... |
16:14 |
hhardy |
there are stats for the new site at laptop.org/awstats/awstats.html |
16:14 |
cjl |
Must check with Browse too. |
16:15 |
dogi |
ok then u do IE6 and IE7 |
16:15 |
hhardy |
you need to be logged into a machine in the 18.85.46.0/23 subnet tho |
16:15 |
cjl |
sure, write results to website laptop.org |
16:15 |
hhardy |
not sure if VIG people have such accounts |
16:15 |
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adric does |
16:15 |
dogi |
thx hardy that was the next thing i wanted to say |
16:15 |
cjl |
nope |
16:15 |
hhardy |
on rt |
16:15 |
dogi |
it working only in the medialab network |
16:16 |
|
+s |
16:16 |
hhardy |
email a ticket to sysadmin and I will put up user accounts on thinker.l.o which is my workstation at work |
16:16 |
cjl |
so you are not talking www.l.o ? |
16:16 |
hhardy |
the one at home is called cow |
16:16 |
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but its not in dns |
16:16 |
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yes is www.l.o |
16:16 |
dogi |
jupp |
16:16 |
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the site is new |
16:17 |
cjl |
But not the currently public content? I'm a little confused by talk of special accts. |
16:17 |
hhardy |
to see the stats |
16:17 |
cjl |
oh |
16:17 |
hhardy |
you need to be looking from a machine in 18.85.x.x |
16:17 |
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not crank or pedla |
16:17 |
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pedal |
16:17 |
cjl |
doesn't need to see stats to do www.l.o testing |
16:17 |
dogi |
use XForwarding ... |
16:18 |
hhardy |
you can see what browsers people are using and what pages are error |
16:18 |
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or lynx |
16:19 |
dogi |
who wants to test lynx , w3, links? |
16:19 |
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ups w3m |
16:20 |
hhardy |
flock, |
16:20 |
dogi |
lol |
16:20 |
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flock ... me :) |
16:20 |
cjl |
still has netscape on a Win2k machine somewhere. |
16:20 |
dogi |
nice |
16:20 |
hhardy |
let's invite testing gang and support gang to help with website usability testing |
16:21 |
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#ACTION ITEM let's invite testing gang and support gang to help with website usability testing |
16:21 |
dogi |
ok |
16:21 |
|
sandbox? |
16:21 |
cjl |
hhardy: If an e-m,ail to sg list qualifies as a report, that would be really easy. |
16:22 |
hhardy |
copy email to web-team l.o? |
16:22 |
dogi |
website l.o |
16:23 |
|
next item ... |
16:23 |
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:P |
16:23 |
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sandbox? |
16:23 |
hhardy |
#topic let's invite testing gang and support gang to help with website usability testing |
16:23 |
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oops |
16:23 |
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#topic wiki updates/openid |
16:24 |
dogi |
hui |
16:24 |
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_bernie is not here ... |
16:24 |
hhardy |
we should think about when to upgrade sematic wiki and also what it takes to add openid support to public wiki |
16:24 |
cjl |
uh, just a second. Need to know all versions to test e.g. www.l.o and http://www-static.laptop.org/es// |
16:24 |
hhardy |
can someone make a website testing matrix on wiki? |
16:25 |
cjl |
No point in ignoring other langs, usability test doesn't imply comprehension :-) |
16:25 |
hhardy |
maybe pick the top 10 browsers from awstats? |
16:25 |
mchua |
sees the word "testing" |
16:25 |
dogi |
cjl: mom i setup a google docs ... |
16:25 |
hhardy |
ok a google doc would do fine |
16:26 |
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I'm not sure what mom is doing in that sentence lol |
16:26 |
cjl |
quiets down and allows progression to wikiupdates openid discussion |
16:27 |
hhardy |
#ACTION ITEM Dogi to setup google spreadsheet for website usability test matrix |
16:27 |
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ok on the matter of updating wiki I think it needs to wait a week or two and hopefully G1G1 madness will be subsiding |
16:27 |
dogi |
need ur gmail adresses |
16:27 |
mchua |
ah shoot, I have to run to support. email me if I'm needed. |
16:28 |
hhardy |
hhardy01 gmail.com |
16:28 |
dogi |
cjl? |
16:28 |
cjl |
cjlhomeaddress @ |
16:28 |
mchua|away |
metamel @ gmail |
16:29 |
hhardy |
#topic backups |
16:29 |
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we need to do more with backups |
16:29 |
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#ACTION ITEM swan needs backup |
16:29 |
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#ACTION ITEM databases need backups |
16:30 |
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#ACTION ITEM TSM backups for all |
16:30 |
dogi |
tomorrow? |
16:30 |
hhardy |
dogi and I to shut ourselves in server room tomorrow and work on same |
16:30 |
dogi |
yes |
16:30 |
hhardy |
and document |
16:30 |
cjl |
hhardy: what sort of backup automation do you have access to? |
16:30 |
hhardy |
we will lurk this chan if people want to kibbitz |
16:31 |
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big disk array on grinch, rsync |
16:31 |
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TSM tape robot at MIT |
16:31 |
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up to 10 TB limit |
16:31 |
cjl |
I mean scheduling tools (e.g. Backup Exec) |
16:31 |
hhardy |
per machine |
16:31 |
|
cron? |
16:31 |
|
lol |
16:31 |
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recommend anything free? |
16:31 |
cjl |
Things tha run them automagically based on config and sends nice e-mails about success/failure? |
16:32 |
hhardy |
nothing atm |
16:32 |
cjl |
Let me poke around, it's a nice way to have things set up. |
16:32 |
hhardy |
except tsm client |
16:32 |
|
nod |
16:32 |
_bernie |
was unable to take part, sorry |
16:32 |
hhardy |
#ACTION ITEM cjl research nice free backup management tools |
16:32 |
cjl |
the OS is Fedora? |
16:32 |
hhardy |
hi bernie |
16:33 |
|
mostly fedora |
16:33 |
cjl |
Others? |
16:33 |
hhardy |
oops |
16:33 |
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mostly ubuntu, a few fedora or debian |
16:33 |
cjl |
k |
16:34 |
hhardy |
anything further on backups? |
16:34 |
|
#topic server for VIG |
16:34 |
|
dogi? |
16:34 |
cjl |
Since you do it to TSM, off-siting isn't an issue right? |
16:34 |
dogi |
yeah |
16:34 |
hhardy |
cjl aye |
16:34 |
cjl |
cool |
16:34 |
dogi |
on kuku and on swan we use kvm |
16:34 |
hhardy |
as long as MIT will host us its much cheaper than commercial rate |
16:35 |
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VIG cant be on swan thats a "nonpublic" machine |
16:35 |
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could be on kuku tho |
16:35 |
dogi |
#link http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/K[…]d_Virtual_Machine |
16:35 |
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so now it is easy to build servers ... |
16:36 |
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does VIG want to have a server |
16:36 |
hhardy |
dogi what would we put on a VIG server? |
16:37 |
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I think dogi has discovered a solution which needs a problem now :) |
16:37 |
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accessing awstats |
16:37 |
cjl |
Monitoring tools? |
16:38 |
hhardy |
thats a good enough rationale |
16:38 |
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aye |
16:38 |
cjl |
rummages for more problems |
16:38 |
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When swan wnet down, did you guys get a nice little e-mail from something like servers alive, or did you find out from a user? |
16:38 |
dogi |
dogi want VIG people to put something on this server :P |
16:38 |
hhardy |
we need to set up alerting from Big Sister |
16:39 |
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#ACTION ITEM set up alerting from Big Sister |
16:39 |
cjl |
I know you use Big Sis web-based, |
16:39 |
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It can do e-mails (say to sysadmin list) too? |
16:39 |
hhardy |
yes emails and pages |
16:39 |
cjl |
cool, also nice thing to have set up. |
16:39 |
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loves IT going to work for IT guys. |
16:40 |
hhardy |
we need people to sign up for times to be on call on the shared VIG calendar on google |
16:40 |
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#link http://www.google.com/calendar[…]mln_wPLSE795jc1zg |
16:43 |
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anything further for today? |
16:43 |
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thanks all! |
16:43 |
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#endmeeting |