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| 02:10 | dfarning | bernie, Nubae ping |
| 02:10 | bernie | dfarning: here! |
| 02:11 | dfarning | How is your road map session coming? |
| 02:11 | bernie | dfarning: we haven't started talking about the roadmap yet |
| 02:11 | dfarning: we'll probably have to reschedule that discussion | |
| 02:11 | dfarning | I saw on sugar you were talking. |
| 02:12 | Nubae | hi |
| 02:12 | dfarning | hey Nubae |
| 02:12 | bernie | dfarning: we got stuck talking about some netinstall case that could save time in some cases, but in my opinion doesn't fit well with how many deployments work |
| 02:13 | dfarning | sounds like a detail. |
| 02:13 | bernie | dfarning: i'm asking Nubae plenty of questions to verify if it can be made to work when the mothership server is in one place (for example, Madrid) and batches of schoolservers are being installed in a school district (for example, Granada) |
| 02:13 | Nubae | we're slowly sort of cooling down... I'm seein that from a technical view I didnt do a gret job at explainging the XS/XM rollout, and Bernie has been very helpful at pointing that out |
| 02:14 | I'd like to dig my teech into thatm abd then hav eanother slight lighter flame war | |
| 02:14 | dfarning | bernie, Nubae each deployment will have it's own mother ship. |
| 02:15 | I don't know if that affects anything. | |
| 02:15 | Nubae | bernie thats what u was trying to explain |
| 02:15 | but before getting further into this, please... let me write somethin that shouold take the voodoo out of it | |
| 02:16 | s/u/I | |
| 02:16 | dfarning | we provide a stock mother ship and then work with the deployment admins to customize it for their needs. |
| 02:17 | Nubae | please, let me write this document to exxplain, and I think Bernie will be more likley to accept |
| 02:17 | dfarning exctly | |
| 02:17 | bernie | Nubae: we were almost there. so we concluded that the XM made in Granada would have to be reconfigured like the one in Madrid in order to create a batch of XS configured the way the deployment expects. correct? |
| 02:17 | Nubae | let me clarify, I send via email, and we take it from there |
| 02:18 | bernie | Nubae: i'm afraid that we'd start over if we switched to email |
| 02:18 | Nubae | bernie yes and no |
| 02:18 | dfarning | Can you set this aside for now? the critical path is unwinding the current xs or xs-au and puppetizing it. |
| 02:18 | Nubae | please let me clrify by email |
| 02:19 | no no... its just outlining the mainn points | |
| 02:19 | think its important | |
| 02:20 | dfarning | It is not critical path. |
| 02:20 | anything else? | |
| 02:20 | bernie | Nubae: ok, but please maintain the exact same scenario: the Granada school district wants to install 30 XS, and the production XM is located in Madrid, where the deployment headquarters are. |
| 02:20 | Nubae | u really HAVE to be on the same page as me about shi... the other thing I've been really trying to get across is read the seciond book (not the puppet one, the ohtre) u will see where I based my stuff from |
| 02:20 | bernie | Nubae: for me, netinstall is really a plus that we don't need to have for this release |
| 02:21 | Nubae | yep, will do |
| 02:21 | bernie | Nubae: next time we meet we should really talk about the things a deployment can't live without. |
| 02:21 | Nubae | I will replicate model with piccies and everythung (j/k) |
| 02:22 | before that, we need to explain how we can read the deployments | |
| 02:22 | bernie | Nubae: uh? |
| 02:22 | Nubae | which is where 80% conversation web |
| 02:22 | webt | |
| 02:22 | bernie | Nubae: read th edeployments? |
| 02:23 | Nubae | jeez went |
| 02:23 | dfarning | +1 core features. We need to to get a working proof of concept that I can sell to deployment. |
| 02:24 | Nubae | dfarning dont worry, like I told u earlier today, test environmnet is up, vms are up an we aer full steam ahead |
| 02:24 | dfarning any luck exaplaining u weren't a mass drug supplier at bank :-) | |
| 02:25 | dfarning | If I go broke before we get other deployments involved we haven't solved any problem. |
| 02:25 | yes, that is taken care of. | |
| 02:25 | bernie | Nubae: ok, we still need to make a list of goals for the first release, though. that should be the first thing we do once this netinstall thing is cleared. |
| 02:26 | Nubae | right |
| 02:26 | bernie | ok, taking a typing break before my hands fall off |
| 02:26 | Nubae | but beleve me... this comee from years of experience... and bascially is the defacto standard in the industry |
| 02:27 | please read the bok | |
| 02:27 | where he talks bout mass depoyments | |
| 02:27 | dfarning | the good news is the the head of the commercial banking department is now managing our account. she is much more knowledgeable then the jr assistant we had before. |
| 02:27 | bernie | Nubae: i can't read a book by tomorrow, but i've done netinstalls for years... i understand the domain |
| 02:27 | Nubae | he doesnt even consider anything but p |
| 02:28 | pxe | |
| 02:28 | bernie | Nubae: let's concentrate at solving the technical problems that real olpc deployments would encounter when installing and configuring schoolservers. |
| 02:29 | Nubae: pxe is cool for installing desktops, yeah. it's a different scenario, though. | |
| 02:29 | Nubae | totally agree |
| 02:29 | bernie | ok, taking a break for real now. |
| 02:29 | see you tomorrow. | |
| 02:29 | Nubae | but skim the book |
| 02:29 | olease | |
| 02:30 | dfarning | ok, can you ping me when you talk. |
| 02:30 | I would like to listen -- even though I won't understand much | |
| 02:40 | Nubae will you send me a log of your conversation with bernie? I would like to understand each of your positions and the sticking points. | |
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| 23:30 | tch | m_anish: hey anish |
| 23:30 | m_anish: did you get your visa renewed? | |
| 23:30 | m_anish | tch, yep, talk to u in 20 mins |
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| 23:52 | Nubae | ok, so we continue here |
| 23:53 | bernie | ok |
| 23:53 | #startmeeting | |
| 23:53 | meeting | Meeting started Wed Mar 9 23:53:12 2011 UTC. The chair is bernie. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. |
| 23:53 | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #endmeeting | |
| 23:53 | Nubae | dfarningp please look at this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1606910 |
| 23:53 | bernie | Meeting agenda: |
| 23:53 | meeting | bernie: Error: "agenda:" is not a valid command. |
| 23:53 | bernie | * potential customers |
| 23:53 | * goals | |
| 23:53 | * roadmap | |
| 23:53 | * release schedule | |
| 23:53 | * testing | |
| 23:53 | ||
| 23:53 | haha, meetbot thought i was talking to it :-) | |
| 23:53 | ||
| 23:54 | Nubae: would you like to append anything else? | |
| 23:54 | Nubae | yes technical intricacies |
| 23:54 | bernie | oops, sounds like a deep topic |
| 23:55 | Nubae | extraction/re-inclusion of XS components both .AU parts and original |
| 23:55 | bernie | Nubae: let's try to keep the meeting 1h this time. it's 7pm (here) and we should be done by 8pm |
| 23:55 | Nubae | oh wow... I set 4 hours for this... caue I really need ot |
| 23:56 | bernie | Nubae: if a topic is taking too much time, we skip to the next one and postpone it to the next time. ok? |
| 23:56 | Nubae | can we compromise on an hour and a half? |
| 23:56 | bernie | ok. 1.5h |
| 23:56 | Nubae | thanks |
| 23:56 | bernie | but it's againt best practices in management to hold really long meetings :-) |
| 23:56 | ok, first topic: | |
| 23:56 | Nubae | ok.... can I make a little intro? |
| 23:56 | bernie | #topic potential customers |
| 23:57 | meeting: #topic potential customers | |
| 23:57 | meeting | bernie: Error: "#topic" is not a valid command. |
| 23:57 | Nubae | understood |
| 23:57 | bernie | damn meeting |
| 23:58 | alsroot_away, dogi: what's wrong with meeting? | |
| 23:58 | meeting: topic potential customers | |
| 23:58 | meeting | bernie: (topic [<channel>]) -- Returns the topic for <channel>. <channel> is only necessary if the message isn't sent in the channel itself. |
| 23:58 | Nubae | ok.... lets try and move along |
| 23:58 | bernie | ok |
| 23:58 | Nubae: go ahead and make a short intro on customers |
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