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21:33 | Nubae | alsroot ping |
21:33 | alsroot | Nubae: hi |
21:33 | Nubae | hey there... hmmm... better as a private message, hang on |
21:55 | dfarning | Nubae: Is the DMS builder pretty much complete? |
22:02 | Nubae | yes |
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22:03 | Nubae | I need tomorrow, to finalise wiki and then put up the iso someplace... |
22:04 | i'm verry happy with it though, we can start ripping it apart from Monday :p | |
22:04 | dfarning | Nubae: ok, what will be the next step? |
22:04 | Nubae | well next week actitivies |
22:05 | the week after will be setting up puppet across the node to push necessary scripts and test them | |
22:05 | oh, and include all XS logic | |
22:06 | by rpm into builder directly where possible, and puppet where not | |
22:06 | make sense? | |
22:06 | also, if u want I can include the FAI debian part too | |
22:06 | but perhaps I should wait on that? | |
22:07 | oh, one big question I meant to ask today at the meeting... DNS... | |
22:08 | should we have a central DNS server? | |
22:08 | silbe | Nubae: content server or resolving / caching server? |
22:09 | needs to go soon | |
22:09 | Nubae | resolving |
22:09 | dirakx | votos +1 on FAI. |
22:09 | silbe | then many decentralised ones :) |
22:09 | dirakx | votes* |
22:09 | Nubae | thinks about mass nomenclature |
22:09 | dfarning | for now stick to redhat/fedora only. once one disto is working we can add more distros |
22:10 | Nubae | silbe ok, so can we name the hosts based on the install number? |
22:10 | silbe | Nubae: whatever works best for you and the deployments :) |
22:10 | dfarning | i don't know enough about dns to have an opinion |
22:10 | Nubae | fedora is as different as debian to rhel6 in terms o fully automated installs |
22:11 | well, ok, let me ask in another way... how are schoolservers being named right now | |
22:11 | silbe | dfarning: that's better than most who don't know enough but have an opinion on DNS anyway. :-/ |
22:11 | Nubae | what kind of ips? |
22:11 | silbe | Nubae: don't know, sorry |
22:11 | dfarning | Nubae: then stick with rhel/centos whenever possiable please. |
22:11 | Nubae | yep, will do |
22:12 | internal/external ip? | |
22:12 | is it feasable to have the building servers have public ips? | |
22:12 | silbe | external ip = official / routable IPv4 address? |
22:13 | Nubae | internal may not need them, but it would help if the mothership had it |
22:13 | for many reasons | |
22:13 | dfarning | the machines will probobly have human readable names like CityName_SchoolName_ServerType |
22:13 | silbe | I wouldn't rely on having a public IPv4 address. IANA is officially out of addresses now. |
22:14 | dfarning | that will make it easy for admins to use puppet dashboard. |
22:14 | Nubae | silbe thats not really an issue... we can use ip6toip4 trans |
22:14 | dfarning agreed | |
22:15 | external ip would really help for the main machines | |
22:15 | max we might have 100 of those | |
22:15 | manageable | |
22:15 | it also helps with distribution of bandwidth | |
22:17 | dfarning | hope you are asking silbe:( |
22:17 | silbe | :) |
22:17 | Nubae | from the sugar software part itself, it would be easier to manage upgrades to those servers, from which the xos could then be upgraded |
22:17 | silbe | -> bed |
22:17 | let's continue tomorrow | |
22:17 | Nubae | heh... silbe... u interested in helping wth this? |
22:18 | especially question wise and such? | |
22:18 | silbe | Nubae: I'll try :) |
22:18 | Nubae | ok. sleep well |
22:18 | dfarning | silbe: good night and thanks |
22:18 | silbe | thx as well |
22:20 | dfarning | Nubae: lets try to set up a dms meeting with silbe, bernie, and rgs_ if possible. |
22:20 | Nubae | ok |
22:20 | silbe | what's dms? |
22:20 | dfarning | dextrose management system:) |
22:20 | silbe | yep, pulling in rgs would be rather useful |
22:20 | ah, another manager ;) | |
22:21 | Nubae | DAMS |
22:21 | dextrose auto management system ;-) | |
22:21 | dfarning | Nubae: nice! |
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22:22 | dfarning | 'the damn dams is screwed up again':( |
22:22 | Nubae | hehe |
22:26 | dfarning | Nubae: have you seen http://git.example42.com/ it has a lot of good example modules. |
22:27 | Nubae | nice there is a nagios example there |
22:30 | dfarning | Nubae: I am envisioning that _every_ service is setup and configured via a puppet module rather than an rpm with postinstall scripts. |
22:30 | puppet can handle the scripts | |
22:31 | Nubae | right... the scripts |
22:31 | but the install will already have been done | |
22:31 | let me put it another way.... we know what kind of base is neccassary | |
22:31 | anything that is uncertain, we push with puppet | |
22:32 | but most important thing with puppet is, for example, creating a new VM in an existing computer, copying across the configs | |
22:33 | and set up specific virtual hosts if its a webserver (just an example) | |
22:33 | it homologizes how all the systems run together in the same way | |
22:34 | the big difference we have though is that we are not abstracting servers | |
22:34 | each server is the same... we wont have a log server, seperate from a web server, seperate from a comms server, etc, right? | |
22:35 | dfarning | there is not baseline server. each deployments uses different services and setups. |
22:36 | Nubae | with puppet, for example, say we forgot to distribute a particular set of content for wikislices... and it needs to be on all the servers in the field... |
22:36 | we define the resource, then choose the servers to case to... and puppet does the rest | |
22:36 | right... thats what puppet does | |
22:36 | it customises the setups | |
22:37 | deployment means servers in the field in my explanation | |
22:38 | s | |
22:38 | s/case/cast | |
22:38 | dfarning | I think we are talk at cross purposes... you have stuff to focus on and I will set up a dms meeting. |
22:39 | Nubae | dfarning remember, puppet can also remove things |
22:39 | so if a deployment isnt happy with something puppet takes it out | |
22:40 | it will be as minimal as possible though... the base | |
22:40 | wait till u see it run, might make more sense then, hopefully :-/ | |
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